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Old 11-07-2007, 01:06 PM
RandomHand RandomHand is offline
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Default 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

Hero is 22/16/3, Villain is 26/14/1.5 over ~150 hands. Nothing too special to note about him.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players

Stack sizes:
HERO: $86.86
UTG+1: $25.93
CO: $49.07
Button: $59.25
SB: $38.75
BB: $59.81

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, HERO checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $16</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $57.81</font>, HERO ...

How would you play it. I'll post the outcome soon.

Thanks.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

I would say with that weak aggressive factor you are beat, with no real reads Fold. Probably shows up with 55 or some suited A3 alot here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

Bet flop.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

I like how it's played to here, including the flop check. I then call behind on turn always (although I cannot say if that is technically correct or not).

I flat turn because:

1. We cannot stand a b/3b from BB as happened as it is so rarely with &lt;AK

2. We are still 3-way and don't know what SB will do

3. Once we raise turn, we really are banking on this relatively solid-looking 26/14 suddenly losing his head with AQ. Meh, that's pretty optimistic.

4. There is lots of scope on the river for value with our modest 1p hand....for example, there's $14 in pot at the end, villain donks again $8-$10 with A6-AQ, and we can shove or minraise depending on how we think we can max EV. Or, we can call if we sense trouble and be reasonably happy with making ~$20 with our 1p hand

5. We don't really need to protect as Ax has poor equity to hit their x.

6. We don't want worse A's to fold
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

As is, I would fold. This is not AQ or AJ often enough. I would also cbet here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

Id cbet that flop, its highly unlikely that either of them connected on this flop.

2nd barrel turn and if raised fold.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

Cbet flop.

As played, pretty easy fold. Your play is consistent with exactly what you have, and he's saying he doesn't care. I don't think this is someone semibluffing the flush draw he just backed into enough to make a call worthwhile.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:00 PM
IAGTTAYM IAGTTAYM is offline
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

I'd just c-bet the flop.
I would probably flat his turn bet too, as our checking range on that flop contains a lot of A-high hands.

As played, folding in probably correct.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

I continuation bet that flop about 95% of the time, especially in position.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ReRaised All In on turn - Call?

I would flatcall turn, but the flop check is ok. I rarely Cbet in a 3way Pot, even if position and check check. on this flop, it is also ok to cbet

this way ill fold. 55 seems most likely also as A3s. Maybe he even has A5 or, if hes really bad, a weaker ace. But thats not going to happen often enough to make it profitable
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