KK deep 5/10...6 max.

tweed_blazer · #1 10-10-2007, 08:06 PM

5/10 NL. villain has 1700. I cover.

utg raises to 35. i reraise with KK to 120.call. fold. fold. fold. Original raiser folds.

Qs 5d 3h.

i bet 210. villain goes all in for 1581.75.

I would say I had a TAG image. I had shown down strong hands (two sets) at showdown, but hadn't really gotten out of line at all. I believe he views me as a smart thinking player. Not much history with villain. Hes a standard 5/10 reg.

Dootch · #2 10-10-2007, 08:13 PM

I think you're drawing to 2 outs here. You've 3bet an utg raiser in UTG+1 he has to give you respect for a big hand.

I would fold.

tweed_blazer · #3 10-10-2007, 08:22 PM

Something about his hand just screams AA to me, even though his line would be extremely unorthodox for that hand. I could see him flatcalling in that spot instead of defining his range with a extremely strong reraise. I don't know. It doesn't make sense but just what I was feeling at the time.

NicholasJ · #4 10-10-2007, 08:44 PM

AA or QQ have to be most of his range.

AAismyfriend · #5 10-10-2007, 08:53 PM

Fold fast

tweed_blazer · #6 10-10-2007, 08:58 PM

If he did have QQ though, why the gross overbet? My hand is pretty well defined and its strength is quite evident, but why wouldn't he opt to the build the pot before coming over the top if he had a hand vulnerable to only two outs? Thats what confuses me about this hand. The two most likely holdings in his range just don't fit this line at all.

Vinny80 · #7 10-10-2007, 09:13 PM

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If he did have QQ though, why the gross overbet? My hand is pretty well defined and its strength is quite evident, but why wouldn't he opt to the build the pot before coming over the top if he had a hand vulnerable to only two outs? Thats what confuses me about this hand. The two most likely holdings in his range just don't fit this line at all.

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it depends how he sees you, that honestly could be a case of 23th level thinking where he thinks you will think he doesn't have it, he may have a read on you here.... reads work both ways!

FireStorm · #8 10-10-2007, 09:15 PM

I can't imagine why he would do this with QQ. Some people, although not most, do this with AA. However, a standard reg who has a good image of you probably doesn't. Therefore, AA or QQ would surprise me here.

That being said, I can't come up with any other hand he could have. I guess I'd fold, not wanting to call off this deep when I'm unsure and don't beat much.

AAismyfriend · #9 10-10-2007, 09:19 PM

it would be even weirder if he overbet shoved this flop with 99-JJ though wouldn't it?

fringsrache · #10 10-10-2007, 09:20 PM

this screams AA. fold!