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Old 12-06-2006, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

Well a small donk lead like that is just begging straate to steal the pot away so I guess call river.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

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Are you guys saying donking turn is bad because he donked so small or because it's a bad play in general?

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against a thinking player it's just bad in general.

EDIT: the size of the donk bet is not a problem, and if we do decide to donk bet then I actually like the small bet since it's a much better way of inducing a bluff, if that's what we really want to do.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

i dont know villian but i think its a cool line with a big hand like that bc it does look real fishy, and also whether or not it represents a hand its a bluff that you really dont see ever at 400, if he shows a bluff here its not so bad bc i would much rather play against someone incapable of making that play.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

i think its fine to call here with 45s and A2s this deep if you dont have a hard on for you like most people do.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

I am for sure 3-betting this PF against a normal TAG.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:03 AM
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I am for sure 3-betting this PF against a normal TAG and 100% against Straate

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Old 12-06-2006, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

you are liek 220 bb's deep, that should change your 3betting frequencies against regulars- i think some it makes it higher and some less.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

looks good, now push
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

easy fold on the river. yeah yeah, straate "bluffs a lot" but i think this is a fold and not close

oh yeah turn is super bad
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: 99 Deep stacked with Straate

someone tell me why:
1. we need to 3bet this hand 100% of the time preflop
2. we need to 3bet this hand 100% of the time espeically against straate
3. why it is ok to call river here (give me a range of straate's hands and give me a range of what straate probably perceives is in hero's hand range?)
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