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Old 11-24-2007, 01:03 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

opponent ive played over a decent sample relative, a couple hundred hands, he runs about 18/9/.9

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $28.55
SB: $21.90
BB: $26.65
UTG: $12.70
MP: $33.40
CO: $41.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $4, CO folds

Flop: ($11.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero...


what would be an appropriate bet size, and what if he shoves?
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

Bet $7.50, fold if he shoves (because of his stats).
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

i feel like i may be pot commited if i bet, but i might be just deep enough to get away from it i guess...

would it change much if i had exactly 100 bb?
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

10/call shove
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

If you are 100 bb's deep I cant fold this to anyone. Im not folding this with your stack either though. Im going to give him a tight range here. Note you are behind to his range but you would be getting 3:1 on your money so this is a must call. You only need to be good 25% of the time against that range to break even.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

15,840 games 0.001 secs 15,840,000 games/sec

Board: Jc Tc Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.289% 40.28% 03.01% 6380 477.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 56.711% 53.70% 03.01% 8506 477.00 { AA, KcKd, QQ, JdJs, TdTh, TdTs, ThTs, AcKc }


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Old 11-24-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

what hand do you put him on that beats you? if villain is a reasonable nit (as his stats imply) he's not gonna hang in there with AJ, QJ or KJ oop. guess betting 9-10 is fine here, i'm almost always calling here if he shoves. if he has tens or jacks - so be it.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

On a side note, betting 9 or 10 is too much imo. Betting between 1/2-2/3 in a 3 bet pot is definitely enough.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

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On a side note, betting 9 or 10 is too much imo. Betting between 1/2-2/3 in a 3 bet pot is definitely enough.

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villain isnt folding ak/aq so 10 is fine.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

I guess I put too much thought into balance but if I am going to c-bet 1/2-2/3 pot with air or a weaker hand than in this one, then I have to do the same here.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - one of those annoying as hell flops...KK, 3b

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I guess I put too much thought into balance but if I am going to c-bet 1/2-2/3 pot with air or a weaker hand than in this one, then I have to do the same here.

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balancing only matters against good opponents though.
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