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Old 11-01-2007, 07:06 PM
MaltbyStu MaltbyStu is offline
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Default NL25 TPTK facing donk bet

New to table not sure if this is his standard line.
Is it worth raising on this board or just try and get to showdown as cheaply as possible?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($14.50)
BB ($6.25)
Hero ($25.10)
Button ($74.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk bet

Raise.

All sorts of good things happen by doing so.

1) You are new to the table, so you gain a slightly aggressive image right out of the gate.

2) You find out how he reacts to the donk/raise line. If you get to showdown you learn even more.

3) If he does donk out with flush/straight draws, you are protecting your hand.

4) He is likely to check the turn to you, and you can check behind for pot control and call a reasonable bet on the river or make a reasonable bet that his KT,QT,JT and because you checked the turn, maybe even his A9, A6 can call.

5) If he folds to the raise, you get to note that he donked for 1/2 pot and folded. So if later he donks for pot, that might mean something else and you'll be aware of it.

6) If he re-raises you, it's easier to let go of your hand (which will probably be cheaper versus calling down to the river).

7) If he flats you and weak-donks again on the turn, it's also easier to let the hand go. This is extreme strength, from what I've experienced.

After you have reads, you can mix up calling and raising, but for now, take control of the hand.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:17 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk bet

Youre raising here for all the reasons that people raise in the first place. For protect against the oh so many draws, for value against those draws or weaker top pair, and for information. If he shoves over you, you can fold. If he flat calls, you can fire the turn. If he folds, then he didnt have much anyway.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:22 PM
MaltbyStu MaltbyStu is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk bet

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Raise.

All sorts of good things happen by doing so.

1) You are new to the table, so you gain a slightly aggressive image right out of the gate.

2) You find out how he reacts to the donk/raise line. If you get to showdown you learn even more.

3) If he does donk out with flush/straight draws, you are protecting your hand.

4) He is likely to check the turn to you, and you can check behind for pot control and call a reasonable bet on the river or make a reasonable bet that his KT,QT,JT and because you checked the turn, maybe even his A9, A6 can call.

5) If he folds to the raise, you get to note that he donked for 1/2 pot and folded. So if later he donks for pot, that might mean something else and you'll be aware of it.

6) If he re-raises you, it's easier to let go of your hand (which will probably be cheaper versus calling down to the river).

7) If he flats you and weak-donks again on the turn, it's also easier to let the hand go. This is extreme strength, from what I've experienced.

After you have reads, you can mix up calling and raising, but for now, take control of the hand.

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Cubase,

Well thought out and very informative.

Thanks for taking the time.

STu
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:24 PM
MaltbyStu MaltbyStu is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk bet

Yes, I'm going to make this a standard line against unknowns and track my results.

Thanks
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