25NL JJ: Help me interpret this turn push

Nick C · #1 08-15-2006, 05:30 PM

BB in this hand is 57/5/1.9 after 58, but a good chunk of that "1.9" comes from $0.25 flop and turn min-bets.

His turn push seemed out of character, and I wasn't sure what to make of it, although I guess the fact that he's getting short-stacked could be a factor. (I was considering putting him all-in on the turn until he beat me to it.)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($23.68)
CO ($27.41)
Hero ($25.05)
SB ($5.35)
BB ($10.79)
UTG ($27.90)
UTG+1 ($20.95)
MP1 ($16.44)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
5 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($6.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $7.79 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $13.89

Should I have called?

Other thoughts?

beavens · #2 08-15-2006, 05:34 PM

against this villain i will call this almost always.

The White Rabbit · #3 08-15-2006, 05:36 PM

Call. Don't fold overpairs for 40BB stacks.

And raise to ~1.5 preflop because both SB and BB are short.

los_toros · #4 08-15-2006, 06:00 PM

Very easy call imo. 25NL I never fold this hand in this exact spot with this bet [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Callio.

TNUC · #5 08-15-2006, 06:43 PM

as said. easy call

74o_Clownsuit · #6 08-15-2006, 07:57 PM

Always a call against this villian with this short of a stack.

Nick C · #7 08-15-2006, 09:20 PM

Yeah, I suspected after the hand that I should've called. But Villain's turn bet threw me (it was 31 times as big as his standard bet at the table up until that point).

After the posted hand, he went on a little mini-rush, and during that mini-rush, he made some big bets (and then would show, for instance, his turned flush after he didn't get called).

So I was thinking, maybe he does save his big bets for big hands (though I had doubts still since he seemed to like to show off his big hands, and he hadn't shown against me).

Then this hand took place (he's MP2):

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($25.68)
UTG ($9.75)
UTG+1 ($6.01)
Hero ($18.87)
MP1 ($15.95)
MP2 ($25.97)
MP3 ($23.25)
CO ($14.49)
Button ($5.10)
SB ($15.38)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) raises to $1.28, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.13, Hero calls $1.13, MP1 calls $1.13, MP2 calls $1.13, Button folds.

Flop: ($7.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $5, MP2 raises to $15, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $4.63 (All-In), Hero folds, MP1 calls $9.57 (All-In).

Turn: ($41.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($41.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $41.60

Results:
UTG+1 has Jc Kd (straight, king high).
MP1 has Ts Qd (two pair, queens and tens).
MP2 has 8h 7h (high card, queen).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $21.29. MP1 wins $19.88. MP2 wins $0.43.

After that, he left the table, and mostly I was left with the impression that he was very erratic.