100NL : Two One Pair Hands

Djeorge · #1 03-11-2007, 08:45 AM

Villain in this hand was about 30/8/1ish over not many (25ish) hands and no other reads. Turn line?

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game

Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $43.00
Hero: $118.50
Button: $118.50
SB: $99.50
BB: $68.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero raises to $5, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $15, Button raises to $30, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($81, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $25,

This hand was against a 88/8/0.93 type. he had obviously been pretty LP but had tried a couple things like bluffed river with a busted draw etc. Go for pot control turn or try and get 3 streets of value?

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $209.30
Hero: $197.65
Button: $87.50
SB: $71.20
BB: $134.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9, UTG calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players)
UTG checks,

Jojje_2k · #2 03-11-2007, 09:17 AM

Hand 2: Against a normal player check is the play but against this type of players a just valuebet them to death.

Djeorge · #3 03-11-2007, 09:19 AM

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Hand 2: Against a normal player check is the play but against this type of players a just valuebet them to death.

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And hand 1?

Jojje_2k · #4 03-11-2007, 09:21 AM

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Hand 2: Against a normal player check is the play but against this type of players a just valuebet them to death.

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And hand 1?

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Don't know, think you have to call him down. Only 99 22 and maybe K9 you are afraid of.

Imrahil · #5 03-11-2007, 09:23 AM

The guy probably has AK. His sample is only over 25 hands so his AF IS NOT accurate. Sometimes I have an AF of 1 over like 70 hands!! I'd just c/rAI the turn there.

Jojje_2k · #6 03-11-2007, 09:27 AM

If you crai dont you scare him off KQ/KJ?

Imrahil · #7 03-11-2007, 09:30 AM

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If you crai dont you scare him off KQ/KJ?

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The guy min-raised the flop so I don't see him ever folding KQ or KJ on the turn after committing $50 to the pot.

AllYouWantToBe · #8 03-11-2007, 09:31 AM

1: bet ~$75. why check? what are you trying to do there?
as played I don't see how you do anything other than call down

2: i like the value bet all the way def. getting called my A,10 type hands enough. unless lead into on a river, then cry and call (maaaaybe fold, probably not though)

Djeorge · #9 03-11-2007, 09:42 AM

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1: bet ~$75. why check? what are you trying to do there?
as played I don't see how you do anything other than call down

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I checked because I'm not a fan of donkbets in general. He minraised the flop meaning he's likely to bet the turn whatever, so I might aswell let him do that and react appropriately. What would be your argument for donking the turn?

AllYouWantToBe · #10 03-11-2007, 09:46 AM

good point. i didn't see that he min-raised the flop. if anything i'd shove the flop since you're much more likely to get it in against his A,K or w/e there. c/r the turn makes your hand a little more transparent IMO and probably won't be getting action as often if he DOES have A,K. if he has K,K then so be it.

my argument for donking the turn would be a 3 bet all in. especially donking something like $35-$40, making your hand much more disguised and hoping to induce a shove, from maybe K,Q or K,J, something like that.