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Old 01-13-2007, 05:33 PM
youthies youthies is offline
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Default 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

Villain was 54/4/4 over 80 hands, and had a flop AF of 2.4.
Do you like a 3-bet here, or C/R?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($17.30)
CO ($11.70)
Button ($10.60)
SB ($10.80)
Hero ($14.25)
UTG ($8.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.3</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $0.90.

Flop: ($2.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ??

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Old 01-13-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

standart bet 2/3 - 3/4 ps
i bet about 1.75$ in this situation
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:00 PM
Sean Fraley Sean Fraley is offline
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

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standart bet 2/3 - 3/4 ps
i bet about 1.75$ in this situation

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Yeah, just bet here. If the only ace left is out there, he'll call you, and so will anyone with a straight draw.

You will be amazed by how many people call to gutshots.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

You hsould take out the final pot in red.

If you cbet a lot i like a lead. If called check the turn (ive been doing this lately) and it seems to work, especially if i bet a lot of flops.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

Yeah, in this hand I bet out for $2.
Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

Either C/C or bet about 1.75 to induce a raise..Do not C/R what hand can villain have that pays you off..If villain has an under set or AK there going in any way you play it..These are also the only hands that will pay off a C/R..A C/R may also let some villains get away from AK..Checking allows other hands a chance to bluff or catch up a little..
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:27 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

I check raise, lead turn if he checks behind on flop.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

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I check raise, lead turn if he checks behind on flop.

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Why check raise???
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:34 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

jam pot if he tries to semi bluff with a draw. If he bets the flop he's likely to have a big hand or air anyways, like AK/AQ or some kind of underpair to the board/whiffed cards. You'll also collect extra bets from hands that are drawing dead like KK and QQ against some opponents on later streets.

If villian has a set he is going to bet this board always on the flop IMO...
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 10NL- AA flops set, how to extract?

Every reason you gave is why you DO NOT check raise..You are trying to extract bets out of these hands..A C/R will blow them off the hand and not give them the chance to lose there stack when there JJ/QQ(for example) turns a set..

What draw can villain have that would raise PF then call a RR???
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