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Old 03-08-2006, 02:39 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default (114) KQ bubble

villain had been very aggro. no one had played back yet. there are antes of 25.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2764</font>,
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: (114) KQ bubble

Seems standard. No one is in danger of busting in the near future and you have a decent amount of FE here b/c SB can fold and still control the table with 4700 chips, and he doesn't want to call and lose and be stuck as 2nd short stack
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:58 AM
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I like it. You're very rarely worse than a coinflip here. Even w/o an aggro read on SB I probably make this play.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:01 AM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: (114) KQ bubble

he has too much odds for too little (1/2) of his stack. I wouldn't be concerned about "playing back" here, you don't need to be the sheriff, just play your +EV edges. Realize how awful it is if he doesn't fold much here.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:04 AM
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You are no fun.

I guess to me it's more about the chance to pick up 800 chips than defending my BB.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:05 AM
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Are you and curtains just making the rounds together, agreeing with each other? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:08 AM
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I just find posts that curtains has posted in and respond with the same advice so I sound smart.

(I usually don't even read comments actually, so no, but what an idea [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: (114) KQ bubble

Suzzer, think there may be a little something more to the fact that all 3 stars players like a push and the party players don't? (other than the experience factor, of course)

I really think this is where the difference in stars vs. party comes into play. After expiramenting a little at party last week, the calls are so much looser and the bubbles don't last nearly as long. I really do believe this hand is folded more on stars (the SB). With your read and the FE stars seems to have over party, I still don't think its a horrible push, but it's not as strong as I first thought.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:12 AM
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I dont think you guys realize how to best play when its 1 big stack and 3 equalish stacks. Getting involved with KQo here is a major major disaster, and given how much he raised, its a pretty decent chance thats what will happen. I really think moving allin is close to terrible....not completely terrible, but close.
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