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Old 11-21-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

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What would people's 3 bet sizes be in this spot btw?

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8k or so I don't mind the 1chip raise and if he go stop gos me I have a pair so I call.

I think 8k gets him to fold AQ in this spot as well.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

9300 is superior
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

9,025 for the win
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

Ok thanks - I was thinking the smaller the better cause it maybe widens his range for continuing a bit?
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:07 AM
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for you guys that flat call... what do you do w/ 99?


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Old 11-21-2007, 11:17 AM
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Tmay is pretty aggro, but not crazy, and i doubt hes opening to light UTG with his stack, he prolly views me as aggro and decent.

So 3bet/call?
Flat?
Fold? (i hope not!)


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All are reasonable options, all are fairly marginal in terms of cEV (except folding, which is exactly marginal). Tmay has been fairly tight the 2 times I've played with him live, maybe he was just card dead. In the absence of any other info, I'd be inclined to gamble here and 3bet/call to take a stab at having the most chips at the table.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

Why is 3betting better than calling? so he can play perfectly against us?
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:18 PM
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I don't like calling either. Too large a % of our stack. Also wtf is with this raising to 9000 [censored]? I would never consider anything other than allin if I was planning on raising any hand here. (I hope I'm reading stack sizes correctly and that the ones after me have same as UTG).
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

very difficult for you to get action from anything but JJ+ AK if you reraise, and i think he has that here a lot. i'd fold.

btw plz convert your ish charder
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:19 PM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

I ran a bunch of opening/calling ranges here, but they basically boiled down to this: if he's opening {77+, AJo+, ATs+}, shoving is cEV neutral, if he's opening any wider, it's going to be +cEV. With a few very minor exceptions, this holds true for calling ranges from {JJ+,AK} down to {99+,AQ+}.
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