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Old 10-01-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: WCOOP main middle set scary board facing CRAI on turn

the turn bet is good, and probably better than a check. Tough spot now, but I'd have to call.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: WCOOP main middle set scary board facing CRAI on turn

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the turn bet is good, and probably better than a check. Tough spot now, but I'd have to call.

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Jeff, if the turn bet is good, shouldn't this be an easy call? If we aren't planning on calling a shove, I don't see the point in betting.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:03 PM
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the turn bet is good, and probably better than a check. Tough spot now, but I'd have to call.

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Jeff, if the turn bet is good, shouldn't this be an easy call? If we aren't planning on calling a shove, I don't see the point in betting.

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I think he is c/shoving very rarely. I would certainly bet most of the time with top set here. I think you probably have to call now, but a read on the villain's preflop range could convince me that a check is a better play than a bet, although unlike most of the posts so far, even if that were the case I think it would only be marginally better.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:09 PM
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Given the situation, I call. There are many hands that he could have in this situation. JT, JTs, AJs, AQs. I don't see how we can fold this turn. Do you think he called the flop bet with 99? Maybe he flopped a straight, maybe he had J9, maybe Q9 and was chasing a gutshot (unlikely). Still there are a lot of hands that would c/rai and the bettor might think his hand is good.

I think you could be beaten, but you could also be way ahead.


A lot of other players stated that checking the turn is a better Idea, which I would say has some merit, but I still probably get it in on the turn. We are only behind to a made straight. It is likely that he flopped it or we are ahead. What 9 did he call your flop bet with?

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How can you be beaten? You are only beaten by a higher set. As I explained before, if you know he has a straight, calling is cEV even.

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By "beaten" he propably means that hero has <50% equity. Just having the odds to call doesn't mean he isnt beaten.
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