22 Deepstack TPTK vs C/R and cold call on the turn

[KneeCo]

I should have a nitty image.
Soft passive pf field, UTG+1 is very splashy and not tricky but I still like my call in this spot, his call on the turn doesn't scare me much at all in this spot, very often TJ/QJ/KJ/FD IMO -- SB is a lot stanger, his pf range is any 2 I guess.

Noting the stack sizes and UTG+1's range, I think the turn is pretty clearly fold>push>call but feel free to argue otherwise. I also think if this is a fold, it's an easier fold if UTG+1 doesn't call.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 (t1650)
CO (t9330)
Button (t11360)
<font color="#C00000">SB (t2675)</font>
BB (t8435)
UTG (t7085)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 (t3105)</font>
Hero (t12365)
MP2 (t12765)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, SB calls t150, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t150.

Turn: (t650) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1000</font>, UTG+1 calls t1000, Hero folds.

[Dave D]

It's a trap. Fold.

With that many limpers, I think someone has you beat here. I hate it, but this seems to happen a lot to me too.

[erc007]

I agree that the turn is a pretty clear fold here, given the action in front of you. I think that UTG+1's coldcall of SB's small/scary c/r makes it easier for you to fold here tho. U have a good but very vunerable hand (your equity is sig lower with a draw/UTG+1 in the pot.) If UTG+1 folds, u might consider shoving if you put SB on a move, but u would need a good specific read (that he semi-bluffs draws on the turn) to make that play. Even with this read, it is very unlikely that he makes this move for almost 1/2 his stack. I think that SB has either 78 (double-gutshot on flop) or 2 pair here a lot.

I agree fold&gt;push&gt;call.

[BarryLyndon]

whatever these sobs have, you're not gonna be happy getting it in. I would fold.

[Proofrock]

Given the depth of stacks I usually pot the flop.

Bet-folding the turn seems good because the board is somewhat coordinated, you will get calls from worse hands and if you get check-raised you can pretty safely fold.

If instead of being multiway it was heads up I would:
a. bet turn and river vs. UTG+1 (probably folding to a c/r) and
b. check turn and call river (or bet river if checked to) vs. SB.

[willperkins]

Amen

[Win.by.TKo]

Another item that leads to a fold, at least for me, is the percentage of the stacks UTG+1 &amp; SB are investing in this pot. Both have invested $1200 to this pot, which for each is roughly 33%-40% of their respective stacks. That, to me, makes the c/r &amp; call extremely strong plays. I suspect one has trips while the other could have a straight already, or monster straight/Flush draw. I prefer picking a better spot to utilize my t11,765 stack.

Folding here is the most prudent play.

[Crash0veride]

why not isolate UTG-1's limp with a raise to 250 - 300 if he is that splashy of a player. As is clear bet fold. NH