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Old 09-22-2007, 01:25 AM
foal foal is offline
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Default 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $26.85
BB: $15.00
UTG: $20.65
UTG+1: $9.40
MP1: $18.65
MP2: $14.50
CO: $18.70
BTN: $7.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.25</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $3.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $26.35</font> (effectively 14.50)
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

Any reads at all?

Personally i prefer a call and evaluate line on the flop, but i dont hate shoving there due to his small stack size - his raise can be just about anything, he might have you as a good size dog with two pair, he might even have the made straight, but id expect to see T9+ a lot of the time.

Ive stoved his range as TT,88-77,ATs-A9s,KTs-K9s,QTs-Q9s,J9s+,T8s+,ATo-A9o,KTo-K9o,QTo-Q9o,J9o+,T9o

If that is accurate your a 51% favourite.

If you cut a lot of the crap out and assign a TT,88-77,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo type range your equity cuts to 46%

Either way, his range has to be as tight as a nun to make it a fold so shoving against just about any reasonable range he can have is good due to the dead money in the pot at the time.
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

Heh, he had T7o. But I like your analysis and appreciate you taking the time to stove it. No reads.
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

Didnt expect his range to be that wide, lol. Assuming his hand selection post flop is as awesome as preflop youre miles ahead of a range he makes a raise like that with.

No problemo stoving it, i need the practice and it only takes a couple min [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Btw, i hope you hit. Please let it be runner runner straight for bonus points [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

the turn and river both fired blanks, unfortunately
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

meh, you only lost $.48 on average by pushing this against T7o. Against his range this is a clear push though. If you have the 46% equity which was the low side in Phills post you make $2.45 by pushing. I think his range is closer to the 51% range he posted as well so the play is def. +ev.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

wtf
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: KQ flush draw - call or shove vs raise?

Anyone here for leading with a check with the intention of check raising if someone behind pulls the trigger? If it goes check check behind we are happy to get the free card right?
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