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#11
09-20-2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
It's important. A lot of newbies don't realize when their two pair get counterfeited and the over pair with board pair becomes the better hand.
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#13
09-20-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
what would have been a better flop for me, KKQ or 237?
the paired Js in the hand I posted are relevant, not because they give me two pair, but because they make Villain having JJ less likely.
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#14
09-20-2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
237 is obviously a better flop. Not much 4betting happens with 22,33,77, where it occasionally does happen with AK and KQ and commonly KK,QQ.
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#15
09-20-2007, 03:16 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
Just as a side note here. I'd probably size my 4-bet to $9 or so.
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#16
09-20-2007, 03:55 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
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237 is obviously a better flop. Not much 4betting happens with 22,33,77, where it occasionally does happen with AK and KQ and commonly KK,QQ. [/ QUOTE ] That was my point. You have 2 pair on the KKQ board and 1 pair on the 237 board. Yet 237 is much better. A paired board doesn't improve my aces, that's why I referred to it as calling a shove with one pair.
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#17
09-20-2007, 04:08 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
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[ QUOTE ] 237 is obviously a better flop. Not much 4betting happens with 22,33,77, where it occasionally does happen with AK and KQ and commonly KK,QQ. [/ QUOTE ] That was my point. You have 2 pair on the KKQ board and 1 pair on the 237 board. Yet 237 is much better. A paired board doesn't improve my aces, that's why I INCORRECTLY referred to it as calling a shove with one pair. [/ QUOTE ] FYP I should of followed CDL's lead in this thread. *** You are ignoring this user ***
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#18
09-20-2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
foal, if you have AA on a 222J5 board are you going to call it one pair? No, of course not, you have a full house. The board cards count and are relative. Its all about relative strength of your hand which is pretty good given that its a 4bet pot. I'd pretty much never fold aces in 4bet pots for 100 BB.
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#19
09-20-2007, 04:26 PM
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Re: 25NL: AA deepstacked vs flop shove - standard?
Your 4bet is too small. Otherwise, standard.
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