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Old 08-10-2007, 05:48 PM
Onaflag Onaflag is offline
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Default Completely lost on nice draw

Villain is the only competent player on the table. No PT where I play. He's been tightish over 150 hands spread across 3 tables (he's on all 3 of my tables) and hasn't gotten out of line at all like everyone else on this site does.

These spots kill me. I don't know what to do. Lead flop from OOP into 2 players? CRAI flop if bet? Turn? What now?

.10/.20

UTG $22.85
CO $5.40
But $9.83
SB (HERO) $20.65
BB $16.61

Hero dealt T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG bets .60
But calls. Hero calls. BB folds.

Flop (3 players) $2 = Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks and it is checked around.

Turn = K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero leads for $1.70. UTG raises to $5. But folds.

Action on Hero.......???

Onaflag........
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Completely lost on nice draw

Fold. You should have checked turn.
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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Fold pf. *EDIT* oops, misread... the call's okay.

I assume you were going for cr on flop?

On the turn I'd shove.
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Completely lost on nice draw

Sorry I didn't see the OESD.. I'd call
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Completely lost on nice draw

fold preflop.

playing draws oop is just not worth the pain.

If it's limped around then obv complete and see the flop but calling raises pre with sc's from the SB where you are absolutely guaranteed to have terrible position is just asking to be brutalised.

as played you are being offered ~2.4:1 by the pot you have 15 going on 17 outs once so you'll hit 1 in three BUT that K completes a straight draw and the way the villains played it looks like he's slow playing a goot hand like the fishies do.

I'd fold - calling is pretty marginal as a chunk of our outs are probably corrupted and if he's got the AT (quite a commonly played hand - despite it being pretty terrible) we have but 9 outs only and that leaves us nowhere near enough odds to call.

You messed this up preflop and it's landed you in a tricky spot. You want to be super tight in the SB in raised pots as a general rule. Especially if the read you have on this guy is that he is tight and he open raises UTG - alarm bells shoulod be ringing. Why call preflop with marginal stuff OOP? You are opening yourself up wide.

Also why are you sitting on THREE tables with the same competent player?? at these stakes there are fish everywhere you look, notice that everyone else on this table has a short stack - move.
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Completely lost on nice draw

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Also why are you sitting on THREE tables with the same competent player??

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These three tables are the only three tables going at this level. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Thanks for the comments.

Onaflag.........
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