Help me with TP2K

Onaflag · #1 02-11-2007, 11:22 PM

When I bleed with TP, I really bleed. Help me play this hand better.

I am OOP which makes playing in an unraised pot even more difficult. Do I give up on the aggression and try calling down cheaply? Am I spewing chips all over the place doing what I'm doing?

Sorry, just got on the table and have no stats on anyone yet.

I think I should have folded the turn raise. Once I make the call, do I have a choice but to make a crying call to a smallish bet on the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($22.45)
Hero ($48)
BB ($96.70)
UTG ($49.25)
MP1 ($65.15)
MP2 ($40.90)
CO ($61)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets $2.5, BB calls $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50, MP2 folds, CO folds.

Turn: ($10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $8, BB folds, MP1 raises to $20, Hero calls $12.

River: ($50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $10, Hero calls $10.

Final Pot: $70

Onaflag........

raistlinx · #2 02-11-2007, 11:30 PM

Well, I think I might be happy checking the turn here. Two callers on the flop is not good.

What about going for a check raise on the flop? Lead turn if checked around and a safe card comes.

I hate giving free cards, especially given the flush draw, but it's still a small pot on the flop and I'd rather give up a small pot now then be faced with a tough decision after it's now much bigger.

Thoughts anyone?

SoCalRugger · #3 02-11-2007, 11:33 PM

I would have checked the turn and hoped to see a cheap showdown.

Vegetarian · #4 02-11-2007, 11:49 PM

You played it well up until the point you called MP1's raise.

Onaflag · #5 02-12-2007, 01:51 AM

[ QUOTE ]
You played it well up until the point you called MP1's raise.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's what I'm thinking. Is his raise an obvious fold? I hate being pushed around, but I hate being stupid, too.

Not sure what is standard here.

Onaflag.........

viper930 · #6 02-12-2007, 02:11 AM

checking the turn is fairly standard but folding to the raise is even more standard

pterodactyl_ · #7 02-12-2007, 02:13 AM

I play it much differently than these posts have suggested. Flame this if neccessary.
OOP in a limped 5-way pot your hand is not strong enough for this line. I c/c flop, then depending on flop action either c/c or c/f turn. This is not a good spot for you and I'm not gonna be trying to build a big pot. The flop bet is not that bad but leading the turn again is where you're really starting to spew.
As played you need to fold to turn raise, there are almost no hands that you can beat aside from a flush draw getting crazy. I also would've checked turn after betting the flop.

Mr_Donktastic · #8 02-12-2007, 02:29 AM

I think you should c/c the turn and as played fold to the rr.

If you c/c the turn you'll prob want to call a river bet too.

Jurrr · #9 02-12-2007, 01:56 PM

I actually check-fold or check-call (depending on who bets and bet size) flop. I am weak like that. I don't like playing limped pots OOP with just TPGK. Reverse implied odds kill me here; there are tons of draws some of which you don't know when they come in. Fold turn; you are not good here. Call river as played.