QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

[jordiepop]

i think this is bad ... u could easily have an ace here and he doesnt care. i bet fold here

[jordiepop]

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are u guys serious? YOU really call an utg raiser in utg+1 with aq,aj axs...?

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you is a bad term here .. hes a 25/20 .. .we dont know any of his other stats. a small part of his range would be draws and the rest is sets or an ace. i think its a clear bet fold

[illuminati]

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are u guys serious? you really call an utg raiser in utg+1 with aq,aj axs...?

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This is not Texas. In 1973.

[Tumez]

This could be okay if the flop were example A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], cuz he couldn't have ace+flush draw, but even then I think its a bit apewy.

[JackAll]

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assuming he doesn't raise here with air regularly, his range has you crushed

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I think this is incorrect. Be good if someone does the maths. We are likely slightly behind, but not crushed.

Just off the top of my head, his range is prob:

A2dd-AJdd = 8 hands that ... oh crap ... destroy us. I guess this is why AJ-AK here is not the same as QQ after all, cuz instead of splitting, we are totally destroyed

57dd/79dd/45s/9Ts = 4 hands of big draws we are splitting with (and there is 82 already in the pot).

Hmm ... that doesn't leave many possible draws that are not strong draws. Ok, I think this makes it much more of a fold too. I guess if it was like 3d4dAx or 9TddAx it there would be way more non-big draws in his range.

Oh, and then sets ya-da-ya-da

Ok, I concede - this is a god forsaken spot and we are totally crushed. I guess it's closer if we have an A, and if the 6 and 8 being in use don't skew a very high number of his draws to combo-draws.

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he has pos on you, it's not a terrible spot to be playing Ax suited, and AJ-AK are definitely in his range.

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Lol @ AQ/AK being in his range