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Old 09-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Fiasco Fiasco is offline
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Default NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

Villain is 13.3/7.7/14 (thats right, his AF is higher than his VPIP) over 443 hands

Is this FPS? I had this sick feeling like, "what the hell am i doing here?" when I made the river bet, think I got kind of lost in this hand.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $59.65
UTG+1: $98.50
MP1: $9.35
Fiasco: $98.50
MP3: $46.35
CO: $60.45
Button: $183.30
SB: $59
BB: $98.50

Pre-flop: (9 players) Fiasco is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Fiasco raises to $4</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Fiasco calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Fiasco checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($22.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Fiasco raises to $24</font>, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($70.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Fiasco bets $30</font>, BB Does something, but you dont get to know what.


Since I have (some) showdown value should I just have called the turn and re-evaluated the river (basically call the turn and fold to any significant bet on the river)?
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:42 PM
BigBiceps BigBiceps is offline
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Default Re: NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

He probably pushed all in.

If you are going to bother bluffing, do it on the flop as it costs you only $15, where your bluff cost you $54.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:45 PM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default Re: NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

I can't figure out what he puts $24 in on the turn with that he folds on the river for $30. They say a bluff should tell a story. This one doesn't, really. Or if it does, I just don't get it.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:45 PM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

Agree to BigBiceps, plus your turn raise does not achieve anything and I guess you know it.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

If you must bluff then this is this is what I'd do in order of effectiveness.

1. Bet the flop for like $15. If he calls then you can give up or fire the turn for $40.

2. Raising the turn to $45 is cheaper, stronger, and doesn't give him a free card, but you don't get that extra $12 out of him. (as opposed to your river bluff)

3. Bluff the river for $50. $30 seems way too weak to me.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

I was trying to represent a big hand (thats what they all say) either AQ or QQ.

I thought the minraise would honestly work on the turn. For some reason I just felt completely sure that he was on KK.

FWIW, he folded the river.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: NL100 I find myself bluffing with JJ

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I was trying to represent a big hand (thats what they all say) either AQ or QQ.

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you should be betting the flop to rep those imo
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