Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 11-09-2007, 04:42 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 9,762
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

[ QUOTE ]
yeah wow dont fold this PF to a 24/21 guy if hes at all active with 3bets.

what the hell are you guys calling with?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd rather 4bet then call.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-09-2007, 05:11 PM
annex21 annex21 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: limit jumping...
Posts: 64
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

I like turning this hand into a 4bet bluff with a small 4bet to something like $114, his 3bet range esp BTNvBB is prob pretty wide.

Calling is poor, even though we have position his AF is 9 and he will be getting out of line against us and with a hand like ATs we cant take that kind of heat. Look for a better spot and fold or 4bet/fold.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BEHIND YOU
Posts: 12,323
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

lol at all the PF commentary without anybody even asking about stack sizes

Your line is fine, but you have to felt this sometimes (assuming you're not super deep). Without any history to speak of, I'd probably drop it on the turn too.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-09-2007, 05:27 PM
MATT111 MATT111 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Driving sideways on a one way street
Posts: 3,066
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

[ QUOTE ]
I like turning this hand into a 4bet bluff with a small 4bet to something like $114, his 3bet range esp BTNvBB is prob pretty wide.


[/ QUOTE ]


I do not like this line with specifically this hand. If he ever shoves with something we are ahead of we are making a mistake by folding to a shove. (And I`ve seeŽn ppl shove with 74o against a small 4-bet). I much rather commit with a good suited ace if I choose to 4bet this against a loose 3-bettor.
(assuming 100BB stacks but I guess that`s implied)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-09-2007, 05:38 PM
annex21 annex21 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: limit jumping...
Posts: 64
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I like turning this hand into a 4bet bluff with a small 4bet to something like $114, his 3bet range esp BTNvBB is prob pretty wide.


[/ QUOTE ]


I do not like this line with specifically this hand. If he ever shoves with something we are ahead of we are making a mistake by folding to a shove. (And I`ve seeŽn ppl shove with 74o against a small 4-bet). I much rather commit with a good suited ace if I choose to 4bet this against a loose 3-bettor.
(assuming 100BB stacks but I guess that`s implied)

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats def true but villain doesn't seem like a maniac who will shove with worse than ATs. He seems like a std LAG who knows a decent amount about the game and I think if he shoves we are behind almost every time except maybe a loose 88, 99 shove. It would be a pretty serious level to shove over our 4bet with worse because we are stacking to him with TT+ and AQ+ and he knows that.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-09-2007, 08:01 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: far and away better
Posts: 15,690
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

4bet this hand and fold is like the worst line you could possibly take and is surely far more horrendous than calling.

BigJim,

I assume ~100BB stacks.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-09-2007, 09:01 PM
catcher193 catcher193 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: min-raising and donk-betting
Posts: 3,671
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

4bet/call isn't that bad.

I don't mind this hand.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-09-2007, 09:31 PM
ogdundar ogdundar is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 470
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

You shouldn't advocate calling with hands like ATs in 3-bet pots to an online newbie. Start with a tighter range and learn the dynamics of aggressive online games and gradaually loosen up. Starting tangling with very marginal holdings in these spots will be an expensive lesson for sure.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-10-2007, 04:25 PM
JackAll JackAll is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: watching 2+2 get crapier daily
Posts: 2,491
Default Re: Need help with 3bet pots

A newbie shouldn't be playing 400nl
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.