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#32
09-27-2007, 06:03 AM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
T8s, gotten flush over flushed, straight < full, full < full (88Txx board vs TT) and flush < full with it a few times over a 150k sample.
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#34
09-27-2007, 06:25 AM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
500k database
86s -0.18ptbb/hand Q9s -0.18 97s -0.17 93s -0.16 42s -0.15 all the worst hands are suited, looks like i overplay my flushdraws in unraised pots
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#35
09-27-2007, 11:02 AM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] SCs ldo [/ QUOTE ] No, ldo. 87s is my 6th biggest winner. [/ QUOTE ] And it couldn't possibly be an outlier, obv. [/ QUOTE ] No it couldn't. Ur right. And also, if I might add, you seem very smart.
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#37
09-27-2007, 11:10 AM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
fwiw 98s is my biggest loser. To put things in perspective, I have only stacked someone with it once in 250,000 hands. I have never stacked someone with my second biggest loser, 97s, despite the fact that since SuperSystem I have been convinced that this hand is the nuts....
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#38
09-27-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
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fwiw 98s is my biggest loser. To put things in perspective, I have only stacked someone with it once in 250,000 hands. I have never stacked someone with my second biggest loser, 97s, despite the fact that since SuperSystem I have been convinced that this hand is the nuts.... [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you just suck at playing hands with nines in them?
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#39
09-27-2007, 01:18 PM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
pokerroom.com used to have a spreadsheet with ev results across 100 million+ hands on their site, broken down by position. In the cutoff for example, the 10 most negative ev hands are:
84 s (worst) 97 s A6 Q3 s A3 94 s 85 s J2 s A4 73 s (10th worst)
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#40
09-27-2007, 01:23 PM
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
Incidentally in the above example (from the cutoff) 84s is -0.15ev. According to the spreadsheet the most negative ev hands come from the BB and are:
J2 -0.43 J3 -0.43 94 -0.43 T2 -0.42 73 -0.42 Q2 -0.41 32 -0.41 83 -0.41 T3 -0.41 72 -0.41
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