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Old 11-18-2007, 02:22 PM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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Default 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

Game is 3 handed on stars. There seem to have been a lot of good high stakes threads lately, so lets keep it up. p3achy is a super tough stars reg, most of you obviously know him. We have played a ton together, so I don't know how well i can describe our dynamic in a post... I have on many occasions tried weird bluffs vs him and he snaps me off regularly. We talk on aim about poker a bit and he probably respects my game and thinks I balance well in spots like these, though I can't really be sure.

I open A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] otb to 600, p3achy calls in the sb, bb folds. (20k stacks)

Flop is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (1400 in the pot)
We both check.

Turn (1400): J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
He bets 1400.

I was a little nervous at the fact that he potted, but I bump it to 4800, he calls after thinking for ~15 secs.

River T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11,000)
He checks. I...

I think case can obviously made for either raising or calling on turn, and on river the ppl I talked to all thought it was close between valuebet and ck behind.

So... 1) Turn thoughts?
2) River thoughts?
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

I like the turn raise and I bet 2/3rds of the pot on the river for value, with intent of calling a raise by p3achy.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

Pretty interesting spot.. problem is that you have > 1pair here like never, and he knows it... but I mean he's got to be thinking that you're aware of this as well.. I think I bet 3/4 pot and fold to a shove.. but I mean this is pretty dynamic-dependent.. cool hand though
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

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I like the turn raise and I bet 2/3rds of the pot on the river for value, with intent of calling a raise by p3achy.

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Old 11-18-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

how often are you raising the turn as a bluff then bluffing the river? he probably doesnt slowplay a better hand here that often so id def bet.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

bet 7k/fold.. but if you have done this earlier he might pull a jman vs pa on you or at least will do it later, so call if you think he's able to do that..
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

Idk how often you overbet ai as a bluff here, but if it were me I'd shove
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

hm, a lot of high stakes players have varied ranges cold calling here preflop 3 handed. I would think that AJ is the bottom of your range that you would raise for value here against a tough reg at 100/200. Id assume ud just flat call sometimes, and that youd raise with draws here sometimes. I dont know, your line seems pretty fishy...but since the 10 rolled off, his combos of Jx worse than you that he would call preflop are lessened, so you are basically hoping he is holding QJ or KJ, or some bluff catcher like 88 and is going to snap you off again.

I dont know the player passed like 100 hands maybe of 25/50 full ring, but if he really really likes to snap off your weird bluffs, i would bet like 7-8k here. Do you think he'll call with QJ here? do you think he'd lead/call with 88 on the turn?
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

given the history i think betting on the smaller side and calling all in is okay
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

I don't really think this is that interesting.

Raise turn > 80% of the time.... and you should be stabbed if you don't value bet this river. Not sure what to do vs. a shove, gotta soulread

and even if I didn't know what to do vs. a shove I still think its a bet, there's no way this isn't a bet
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