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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
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  #941  
Old 09-14-2007, 06:29 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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How committed are YOU to this hand? SB has a loose understanding of the game, which means he's better than average. There is some (not much) history of us battling. His range includes draws and weaker hands including the case J and potentially a poorly played KK.



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when i have the third nuts, at 25NL, and villain could easily be betting the 4th, 5th and 6th nuts (and there's only 1 way to have the nuts and 2 ways to have the 2nd nuts), i am very committed.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

Generic situation where I don't know what the most EV line to take is:

Effective Stacks: 100BB
My Hole Cards: QQ in SB

Action:

UTG raises to 4BB
UTG+1 calls
Bn calls
Hero reraises to 12BB
UTG calls,UTG+1 folds, Bn calls

Pot: 45.5BB

Flop: 983 rainbow

Hero bets 30BB, UTG calls, Bn folds.

1. What's my plan now?
2. Is there a better flop bet?
3. What line would you take at 5c/10c, 25c/50c and $1/$2?

Assume that reads are minimal - always seems to happen hand 2!
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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Generic situation where I don't know what the most EV line to take is:

Effective Stacks: 100BB
My Hole Cards: QQ in SB

Action:

UTG raises to 4BB
UTG+1 calls
Bn calls
Hero reraises to 12BB
UTG calls,UTG+1 folds, Bn calls

Pot: 45.5BB

Flop: 983 rainbow

Hero bets 30BB, UTG calls, Bn folds.

1. What's my plan now?
2. Is there a better flop bet?
3. What line would you take at 5c/10c, 25c/50c and $1/$2?

Assume that reads are minimal - always seems to happen hand 2!

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your reraise is too small with 13.5 bbs already in the pot. i'd make it 20-25 to go. that way you get it in with a pot sized bet on the flop if you just get 1 caller. as played, crai might be better than leading the flop. on the turn i'd probly c/f unless utg minbets or something. i only play .10/.25 and .25/.50.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

i finally experienced what it is like to make a bunch of money and lose it back all in one day, ugh, im assuming i will probably have to get used to it
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

I wasn't involved in this hand.


Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($536)
BB ($142.90)
UTG ($643.04)
MP ($294)
Button ($154)

Preflop: BB has 5, 4.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($18) 5, T, Q <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $464</font>, BB ?
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

BB snapcalls
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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BB snapcalls and wins unimproved to AcKc

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Old 09-15-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12085982

i couldn't get an answer from the unl forum...
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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BB snapcalls and wins unimproved to AcKc

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You are 1.3 to 1 dog to AcKc, but you are getting 1.4 to 1.

I think it's a call. Just an interesting spot where it's almost guaranteed to be a call, but just barely.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:08 PM
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12085982

i couldn't get an answer from the unl forum...

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You're limp re-raising AQo? f'real?

To answer your question, he doesn't have to have a lot of draws in his range, but with you having the Ah what draws do you put in his range. If he's real loose you can put some suited connectors in there and you're good, but if not, he has to be bluffing a lot even though you are getting 2 to 1.

It's a really bad spot that you shouldn't have been in though.
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