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Old 10-02-2007, 11:13 AM
Dalek Dalek is offline
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4-betting flop accomplishes 4 important things:

1. indicates that either you have a real hand or that you are a player willing to escalate stakes (which tends to indicate a more talented player)

2. forces a straightforward villain to think about what you might have, rather than just what he has, and this might induce enough doubt to get a fold out of him

3. significantly raises the stakes, and, independent of any other factor, raised stakes can force opponents without a premium hand outside of their comfort zone and induce mistakes from them

4. puts and end to the action on the flop, where it should end for an unimproved overpair the large majority of the time

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lol
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:35 PM
Crash0veride Crash0veride is offline
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fold pf THERE'S A GUY BEHIND YOU WHO FINAL TABLED A HORSE EVENT YOU HAVE TO FOLD PF!

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lol @ HORSE
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:58 PM
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4-betting flop accomplishes 4 important things:

1. indicates that either you have a real hand or that you are a player willing to escalate stakes (which tends to indicate a more talented player)

2. forces a straightforward villain to think about what you might have, rather than just what he has, and this might induce enough doubt to get a fold out of him

3. significantly raises the stakes, and, independent of any other factor, raised stakes can force opponents without a premium hand outside of their comfort zone and induce mistakes from them

4. puts and end to the action on the flop, where it should end for an unimproved overpair the large majority of the time

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lol

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I am not going to respond to posts from people who don't know the difference between 3-betting and 4-betting.

I think the basis of the argument is raise the flop because omg you have kings.

Incidently, this thread is getting a zillion responses. Pretty soon it will have one of those fires shown.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:04 PM
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I am not going to respond to posts from people who don't know the difference between 3-betting and 4-betting.


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Burn!
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:09 PM
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I think the basis of the argument is raise the flop because omg you have kings.

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Again ... break out those SAT study guides ... the reading comprehension sections.

BTW, you're the one who got pawned on this hand.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:51 PM
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baltosar, do you think you are better than the numerous posters who are laughing at you and telling you that you are making terrible arguments?
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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baltosar, do you think you are better than the numerous posters who are laughing at you and telling you that you are making terrible arguments?

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Clearly. The man has no records at all to back up his strategy with. Yet, he wants us to believe in him rather than guys with several 100k in tournament wins. What's even more funny is that he insults those guys for not thinking properly. I'm not blaming his flawed concepts, everyone can get it wrong at times, but refusing to see this is beyond idiocy...
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:34 PM
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I think the basis of the argument is raise the flop because omg you have kings.

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Again ... break out those SAT study guides ... the reading comprehension sections.

BTW, you're the one who got pawned on this hand.

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Please explain in detail how this hand would've gone better had you played it, sir.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
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baltosar, do you think you are better than the numerous posters who are laughing at you and telling you that you are making terrible arguments?

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Clearly. The man has no records at all to back up his strategy with. Yet, he wants us to believe in him rather than guys with several 100k in tournament wins. What's even more funny is that he insults those guys for not thinking properly. I'm not blaming his flawed concepts, everyone can get it wrong at times, but refusing to see this is beyond idiocy...

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This is High Stakes MTT. Not BBV.

Interesting that none these genius' can elaborate a viable strategy for this hand, and most of them can't even come up with rebuttals for my arguments other than "lol" and other ingenious forensic techniques.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:46 PM
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