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#81
08-28-2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. [/ QUOTE ] Yes it is. That's their business, amongst other areas: "Assure your software is secure and reliable" You continue to lie like a lying liar who lies. [ QUOTE ] They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng.... [/ QUOTE ] Is there any reason to doubt their ability? This is another example of you believing things with no reason to do so. 
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#82
08-28-2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is from Cigital itself [/ QUOTE ] No, it is not - as the subtitle of the link says. Ah, yes it is. Follow the link... [/ QUOTE ] you're right... but it was originally published elsewhere. [/ QUOTE ] It was? It says "we" as in Cigital on their site that wrote the article. Not sure where you think this was published, this was Cigitals findings. [/ QUOTE ] Um... L2Read? How We Learned to Cheat at Online Poker: A Study in Software Security by Brad Arkin, Frank Hill, Scott Marks, Matt Schmid and Thomas John Walls Originally appeared on Developer.com; September 1999
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#83
08-28-2007, 03:33 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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It was? It says "we" as in Cigital on their site that wrote the article. Not sure where you think this was published, this was Cigitals findings. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How We Learned to Cheat at Online Poker: A Study in Software Security by Brad Arkin, Frank Hill, Scott Marks, Matt Schmid and Thomas John Walls Originally appeared on Developer.com; September 1999 [/ QUOTE ]
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#84
08-28-2007, 03:35 AM
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I didn't say that WAS the algorithm they gave.. [/ QUOTE ] You claimed that that algorithm was all Pokerstars "could've gave (sic) cigital to "test" their rng". That is a lie. PokerStars could not have just given Cigital that algorithm, 'cause that algorithm is flawed. [ QUOTE ] I said that is all they had to do. [/ QUOTE ] Which is untrue. Either you are ignorant or you are lying. I am happy to be corrected if you think you are ignorant of the issues involved here. [ QUOTE ] Quit with the liar crap moron. [/ QUOTE ] Then stop lying - or admit that you are ignorant. I don't mind which.
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#85
08-28-2007, 03:37 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng ....or better yet it sounds like their algorithm. I have questions, did they test their rng in operation or did pokerstars give them the algorithm they use? So easy to get by this and make this claim. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe so, maybe not. Hopefully the reply to your e-mail will tell. BTW an RNG is an algorithm. I understand that,,,I'm saying did they close up shop and let Cigital come in and test their rng (THE ACTUAL SERVER IT RUNS ON )or did they just send them the algorithm they use... Question: Back to your donkament bad beats, what's PokerStars' incentive for rigging a tournament hand so that you get sucked out on? [/ QUOTE ] Rake...DUCY?
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#86
08-28-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng ....or better yet it sounds like their algorithm. I have questions, did they test their rng in operation or did pokerstars give them the algorithm they use? So easy to get by this and make this claim. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe so, maybe not. Hopefully the reply to your e-mail will tell. BTW an RNG is an algorithm. I understand that,,,I'm saying did they close up shop and let Cigital come in and test their rng (THE ACTUAL SERVER IT RUNS ON )or did they just send them the algorithm they use... Question: Back to your donkament bad beats, what's PokerStars' incentive for rigging a tournament hand so that you get sucked out on? [/ QUOTE ] Rake...DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] I don't. Please explain.
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#87
08-28-2007, 03:40 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] I didn't say that WAS the algorithm they gave.. [/ QUOTE ] You claimed that that algorithm was all Pokerstars "could've gave (sic) cigital to "test" their rng". That is a lie. PokerStars could not have just given Cigital that algorithm, 'cause that algorithm is flawed. [ QUOTE ] I said that is all they had to do. [/ QUOTE ] Which is untrue. Either you are ignorant or you are lying. I am happy to be corrected if you think you are ignorant of the issues involved here. [ QUOTE ] Quit with the liar crap moron. [/ QUOTE ] Then stop lying - or admit that you are ignorant. I don't mind which. [/ QUOTE ] Quit being retarded....how much you making an hour to defend these turds. Learn to read. It was an example retard. Proof is all I need, give it up douche tard.
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#88
08-28-2007, 03:41 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng ....or better yet it sounds like their algorithm. I have questions, did they test their rng in operation or did pokerstars give them the algorithm they use? So easy to get by this and make this claim. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe so, maybe not. Hopefully the reply to your e-mail will tell. BTW an RNG is an algorithm. I understand that,,,I'm saying did they close up shop and let Cigital come in and test their rng (THE ACTUAL SERVER IT RUNS ON )or did they just send them the algorithm they use... Question: Back to your donkament bad beats, what's PokerStars' incentive for rigging a tournament hand so that you get sucked out on? [/ QUOTE ] Rake...DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] I don't. Please explain. [/ QUOTE ] [x] profit DUCY NOW?
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#89
08-28-2007, 03:42 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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Quit being retarded....how much you making an hour to defend these turds. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not being paid by PS (or any other online gaming provider). However, if they or any other site wanted to employ me, they can PM or email me all job offers. [ QUOTE ] Learn to read. It was an example retard. [/ QUOTE ] But the example you used is false. 'Cause they couldn't have given that algorithm.
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#90
08-28-2007, 03:42 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng ....or better yet it sounds like their algorithm. I have questions, did they test their rng in operation or did pokerstars give them the algorithm they use? So easy to get by this and make this claim. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe so, maybe not. Hopefully the reply to your e-mail will tell. BTW an RNG is an algorithm. I understand that,,,I'm saying did they close up shop and let Cigital come in and test their rng (THE ACTUAL SERVER IT RUNS ON )or did they just send them the algorithm they use... Question: Back to your donkament bad beats, what's PokerStars' incentive for rigging a tournament hand so that you get sucked out on? [/ QUOTE ] Rake...DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] I don't. Please explain. [/ QUOTE ] [x] profit DUCY NOW? [/ QUOTE ] Nope.
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