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Old 08-21-2007, 12:58 PM
Mondogarage Mondogarage is offline
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You misunderstood me, I take it for granted that every poker player who talks about "bankroll" has a separate poker bankroll. Otherwise, you're obviously displaying horrible BR management.

I take it that is what Bakes meant as well (poker bankroll), otherwise I would obviously understand being scared to play with life bankroll...which is just stupid.

Edit: horrible BR management or just getting into poker/playing microstakes, but I feel that is beyond what we're discussing here.

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Makes sense to me. I think it's obv that what some folks see as a reasonable % of total funds to use as a poker bankroll can differ.

I probably don't actually practice *great* BR management, in the sense that on the couple occasions I have gone busto, I know I can just deposit another $200 with no sweat, that's like 2/3 a day's pay at my day job, and the one nice score I had, back in late 2005, once I withdrew that, I can deposit a few times and still be lifetime up online.

But, whether it's from working in the legal field (which is, generally speaking, full of financially risk-averse folk, despite the handful of prominent types who are not), or from seeing the economy really about to go [censored] up for a while, I don't mind hoarding cash, either.

Oddly enough, I have no problem ponying up $70-150 for a buyin for live tournaments, I just prefer not to online, since my ROI has been a lot better live, albeit in a tiny sample size.

Anyway, I'll quit posting, since this really is unrelated. But I think we're on the same wavelength. Cheers.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:23 PM
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I think he's trying to say that some mediocre players, who could possibly be -ev in big live events could very easily hit a huge score in wsop, wpt, etc. and already owe tons of makeup so bax/sheets get to keep the majority of the winnings.

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lol, you realize that they already paid the majority of the winnings in previous buy ins right?
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:25 PM
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matt, convince me that Fischmann is honestly +ev... ready set go
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:27 PM
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I think he's trying to say that some mediocre players, who could possibly be -ev in big live events could very easily hit a huge score in wsop, wpt, etc. and already owe tons of makeup so bax/sheets get to keep the majority of the winnings.

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Ah, I don't think I understand this makeup thing. Are you saying the backer would keep a running tab, which the horse would have to pay off in full if they win enough to do so?

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:31 PM
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I think he's trying to say that some mediocre players, who could possibly be -ev in big live events could very easily hit a huge score in wsop, wpt, etc. and already owe tons of makeup so bax/sheets get to keep the majority of the winnings.

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lol, you realize that they already paid the majority of the winnings in previous buy ins right?

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Yeah, I know that. But lets say that a horse runs up 50k in makeup and then hits a 100k score. The stakers get to keep 75k of it. Even though 50 of it was already invested by them, it's certainly nice to get it all back at once.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:38 PM
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I think he's trying to say that some mediocre players, who could possibly be -ev in big live events could very easily hit a huge score in wsop, wpt, etc. and already owe tons of makeup so bax/sheets get to keep the majority of the winnings.

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lol, you realize that they already paid the majority of the winnings in previous buy ins right?

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Yeah, I know that. But lets say that a horse runs up 50k in makeup and then hits a 100k score. The stakers get to keep 75k of it. Even though 50 of it was already invested by them, it's certainly nice to get it all back at once.

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lol? it would be much better to have the player breakeven for whatever period and then get a 25k out of nowhere. especially since there is opportunity cost in "getting it all at once"
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:45 PM
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I would think if a horse was 50k down in makeup, without any ROI to that point, that's one horse that should be headed to the glue factory. Even at a $500 buy-in, that's 100 tournaments. Unless you're talking five $10k buy-ins, that's a lot of tournaments to back without seeing any chance at being an eventual successful investment.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:51 PM
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I would think if a horse was 50k down in makeup, without any ROI to that point, that's one horse that should be headed to the glue factory. Even at a $500 buy-in, that's 100 tournaments. Unless you're talking five $10k buy-ins, that's a lot of tournaments to back without seeing any chance at being an eventual successful investment.

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:52 PM
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matt, convince me that Fischmann is honestly +ev... ready set go

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not sure how I could do that for you, but he does have 2 million in lifetime live major winnings. at the same time he is up 131k in Stars MTTs, up 17k in tilt MTTs, up 13k in UB MTTs. all i can really go by
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:53 PM
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im backing aejones
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