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Old 07-19-2007, 11:11 AM
fnurt fnurt is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

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dealers complain they're under paid, but won't tell how much they're making

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exactly. stop complaining if you aren't willing to be upfront about how much you make. obviously dealers complain because they want the tipping culture to change/improve, yet how can they create change without showing that they are being paid unfairly.

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I NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT MY PAY OR SAID THAT I WAS BEING PAID UNFAIRLY
OMG do you even understand the english language???
I am highly unimpressed with the lack of intelligence found in this forum. I really hope that Harrahs and the PAB will bring on a rep for the dealers so this can be better for the players and staff next year

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I think people are venting a lot of complaints they have about dealers in general. I wouldn't take it personally.

I thought the things you said about Jerry Yang were very classy btw. He does seem like a good person.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:13 AM
Uglyowl Uglyowl is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

It is pretty cool you took the time to come on here to clear a few things up also.

I echo, don't take things personally.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:20 AM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

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This may sound odd but didn't every player that entered effectively tip 1.8% ($180.00) before the event got underway win or lose? The prize won by Yang represented the monies left after the operating costs had been removed. Yang effectively contributed $180.00 just like everyone else.

Depends on how you look at it I guess.

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That's BS this money would have been in the prize pool if it wasn't taken out. Since some players didn't tip from their winnings in the past the system was changed to the current method. It's not the players fault if the Casino hired too many dealers or took too little (not in my opinion) from the prize pool. Maybe they should go back to the old way of letting players decide if/how much the dealers deserve.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:25 AM
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:31 AM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

700 dealers?
How many of them spent the past week dealing side games, gaining tokes while the ME was going on?
How many dealt the 15 non-bracelet events that ran July 9th to 16th, gaining tips while the ME was going on?
So to say the ME tokes were spread out over 700 dealers more that a bit misleading.

Simple.
Publish an "average" dealers take for the WSOP.
Then we can see if the dealers were "stiffed".

Until then, quit bashing CF for educating Yang as to the realities of the money taken out up front.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:36 AM
PoineDexter PoineDexter is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

That's what I'm saying. Yang didn't win all those peoples tip money and then have it deducted out of his winnings. It had already been removed prior to play.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

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I am highly unimpressed with the lack of intelligence found in this forum.

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You're new here, aren't you?
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:49 AM
IQof47 IQof47 is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

Anyone who sits inside and does nothing but shuffle cards and pass them out to others should not bitch about $15/hr,much less $50/hr. You count on the WSOP to generate 2/3 of your income? Tough, that makes you an idiot who needs to learn what he/she is worth, and quit expecting a windfall from someone elses' success, literally any able bodied person with an IQ above 60 can deal a poker game. Some people in this world have went as far as getting a 2nd or 3rd job to take care of financial problems. You talk about how pissed you were in initial post when CF misled Tommy Vu about the tip, even though it doesn't appear he did mislead him, it is obvious you are mad because you wanted a little piece (undeservedly). Next time you are sad and need to feel better go to a site where a building is going up, its 110 outside, there are 2 guys at top of said structure, 60 feet in air,30MPH wind blowin, they are on a deadline,and they are making less than you. Go sit on your ass and shuffle up and deal, it is a pretty easy job.

Note- I realize having a bad dealer can ruin a table, but that is on Harrah's, it is SO easy to deal.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

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700 dealers?
How many of them spent the past week dealing side games, gaining tokes while the ME was going on?
How many dealt the 15 non-bracelet events that ran July 9th to 16th, gaining tips while the ME was going on?
So to say the ME tokes were spread out over 700 dealers more that a bit misleading.

Simple.
Publish an "average" dealers take for the WSOP.
Then we can see if the dealers were "stiffed".

Until then, quit bashing CF for educating Yang as to the realities of the money taken out up front.

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He was wrong, plain and simple. AS for the dealers, 700+ for all 3 shifts, dealers are paid by down this year so when they are sent to the live section, they are not getting part of the pool, only if you pitch a card on a tourney table. ALL tourneys held from the 6th to the end are all pooled into the same fund. And I will continue to speak the truth about CF just like I have been all along.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:02 PM
pkrporcupine pkrporcupine is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

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Anyone who sits inside and does nothing but shuffle cards and pass them out to others should not bitch about $15/hr,much less $50/hr. You count on the WSOP to generate 2/3 of your income? Tough, that makes you an idiot who needs to learn what he/she is worth, and quit expecting a windfall from someone elses' success, literally any able bodied person with an IQ above 60 can deal a poker game. Some people in this world have went as far as getting a 2nd or 3rd job to take care of financial problems. You talk about how pissed you were in initial post when CF misled Tommy Vu about the tip, even though it doesn't appear he did mislead him, it is obvious you are mad because you wanted a little piece (undeservedly). Next time you are sad and need to feel better go to a site where a building is going up, its 110 outside, there are 2 guys at top of said structure, 60 feet in air,30MPH wind blowin, they are on a deadline,and they are making less than you. Go sit on your ass and shuffle up and deal, it is a pretty easy job.

Note- I realize having a bad dealer can ruin a table, but that is on Harrah's, it is SO easy to deal.

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yet another who cannot read or understand english. Where exactly was Tommy Vu?? If you could read you would have noticed that I am perfectly happy with what I made this year and INCREDDIBLY HAPPY that JERRY Y won the ME. As for my skills, I would love to see you be able to do what I do AND do it well enough to be televised. Im sorry that you are not skilled nor educated enough to work smarter. I will make sure and wave to you next time I drive past the construction on Frank Sinatra Blvd
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