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#81
05-21-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re: NBA HoFers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The NBA needs a seperate hall of fame. Springfield is filled with mediocre college coaches and international players. It is a disgrace when guys like Adrian Dantley can't get in but 15 players from eastern europe who nobody has every heard of get the green light. [/ QUOTE ]I actually like the way the basketball HoF is set up. Baseball should be the same as well IMHO. [/ QUOTE ] No way. At the very least, a section of Springfield should be dedicated solely to NBA guys. No one gives a crap about int'l or college guys who never got it done on the world's biggest and most competitive stage. Some college coaches are legendary, I'll concede that. But they can have a separate hall. It'd be a laugh if baseball tried this. [/ QUOTE ] If baseball ran their hall of fame the same way they would be putting in all sorts of AAA and AA all star players and coaches. Take a trip to Springfield and walk around, there are dozens and dozens of players and coaches who would be considered below average on an NBA scale. Then Dominique Wilkins doesn't get in on the first ballot and Bernard King and Adrian Dantley, (A guy who scored 30+ points 4 years in a row) don't get in at all. Springfield is an absolute abomination to NBA basketball. They don't recognize the NBA as the pre-eminate stage of competition. Instead they choose to elect dozens of college coaches with a .500 winning percentage at Southern Arkansas St. and International players who averaged 12 ppg in the olympics in the 1950s. NBA needs its own hall, no question. 
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#84
05-21-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: NBA HoFers
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Who in the HOF doesn't deserve to be there? NBA doesn't just let the doors open. [/ QUOTE ] K. C. Jones
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#86
05-21-2007, 05:22 PM
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Re: NBA HoFers
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KC Jones is the only really bad NBA pick off the top of my head. The problem is that they're listed with a bunch of Euro and college guys. Even a HS guy. [/ QUOTE ] Indiana HS basketball > NBA basketball.
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#87
05-21-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: NBA HoFers
Arnold D. "Arnie" Risen
Enshrined 1998 Born: October 9, 1924 Lexington, KY Compared to George Mikan and the big and burly power players of the late 1940s and early 1950s, 6-foot-9, 210-pound Arnie Risen appeared to be at a physical disadvantage. But during the NBA's formative years, Risen was a big scorer, rugged rebounder, and all-around versatile competitor. Known as "Stilts," Risen led the league in field goal percentage while finishing as the fourth leading scorer in 1949. Risen played thirteen professional seasons - more than two with Indianapolis of the National Basketball League, over seven with Rochester of the NBL/BAA/NBA, and three with the NBA's Boston Celtics. He averaged twelve points a game in his career and scored 24 points in Rochester's title win in 1951.
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#90
05-21-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: Has the ratio of HOF\'ers gone down significantly from 20 years ago
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Just looking over some historical stats. Check out the 87-88 All NBA teams: First Team Charles Barkley Larry Bird Magic Johnson Michael Jordan Hakeem Olajuwon Second Team: Clyde Drexler Patrick Ewing Karl Malone John Stockton Dominique Wilkins Every single guy on both teams is a HOF'er. In addition, McHale, Jabbar, Zeke, Moses, Cheeks, English, Worthy and Parish were all still playing at a fairly high level. That's 18 HOF'ers playing at the same time (and I may have left some out). Are we under-rating players today, or was the talent level at the top of the league much better then? [/ QUOTE ] I personally think it was just a perfect storm at work. More random than anything else. There just happened to be a whole lot of really good basketball players at the same time. It seems like we might be in or approaching another time like that if all these young guys pan out. Basically it's hard to evaluate things while they are happening. In ten years we might look back at how insane the talent level was today.
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