Thoughts on the Rebublican debate tonight

[ShakeZula06]

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One of the other few principled conservatives

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I stopped reading when I read this line.....


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Nice cop out. Couldn't possibly read something you disagree with now can you?

[Borodog]

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/18/martin/index.html

This link was on the front page of CNN. Title is "Martin: Paul's 9/11 explanation deserves to be debated".

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Thanks. This is a good one.

I just called in and put the smackdown on our local afternoon blathering righty talk show host about Ron Paul. It felt really good.

[kickabuck]

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Dennis Miller on Fox News had a pretty good analysis of the RPaul/RudyG exchange. He said words to the effect that Ron Paul gave RudyG a hanging curve ball which Rudy knock out of the park.

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It has nothing to do with the actual merit of Ron Paul's argument or the fact that Guiliani didn't actually refute it. It's only because appealing to 9/11 emotion is the ULTIMATE home run for a politician. Remember George Bush with all the firemen the Friday after 9/11 at Ground Zero? Hello 90% approval rating!

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The only highlight of his presidency in my opinion. He was Churchillian/Reaganesque for five minutes with that bullhorn, a shame it was an anomaly. He's generally unpersuasive and as charismatic as dried toast with either prepared or spontaneous remarks, a horrible trait for the supposed leader of the West.

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Guiliani would be a terrible choice for President. I have no idea how anyone could think otherwise. Anyone could have been Mayor on 9/11, it just happened to be him. What qualifications does he have in national politics? The answer is little/none. Ron Paul very obviously does not think that America is some evil entity that encourages terrorist attacks. Perhaps, given the high degree of stupidity/herd mentality of many Americans, he should have chosen his words more carefully, but anyone who honestly believes the pathetic attacks against him must have stopped thinking for himself a long time ago.

[Taso]

lol New York City is basically a country in and of itself.

[Ineedaride2]

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lol New York City is basically a country in and of itself.

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In that case, the U.S. would be a continent.

[MrMon]

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Guiliani would be a terrible choice for President. I have no idea how anyone could think otherwise. Anyone could have been Mayor on 9/11, it just happened to be him. What qualifications does he have in national politics?

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As opposed to, say, being governor of a small rural southern state? Or a first term senator who basically started running for president two years into office? Or even a frontier lawyer with a total of only four years as a House member? Being mayor of New York may not be running the Allied war effort in WW II, but it's a heck of a lot more qualifying than the qualifications some past occupants or current candidates bring to the table.

[Taxman]

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Guiliani would be a terrible choice for President. I have no idea how anyone could think otherwise. Anyone could have been Mayor on 9/11, it just happened to be him. What qualifications does he have in national politics?

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As opposed to, say, being governor of a small rural southern state? Or a first term senator who basically started running for president two years into office? Or even a frontier lawyer with a total of only four years as a House member? Being mayor of New York may not be running the Allied war effort in WW II, but it's a heck of a lot more qualifying than the qualifications some past occupants or current candidates bring to the table.

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Yes, all of those people would be better qualified. I really don't see how you can believe otherwise. In any case, even if you disagree with that statement, that does not make Guiliani a good candidate. Or is your claim that every one of his competitors is less qualified than he is? I never named my own political affiliations. I just see it as being blatantly obvious that Guiliani is not the best option.

[MrMon]

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Guiliani would be a terrible choice for President. I have no idea how anyone could think otherwise. Anyone could have been Mayor on 9/11, it just happened to be him. What qualifications does he have in national politics?

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As opposed to, say, being governor of a small rural southern state? Or a first term senator who basically started running for president two years into office? Or even a frontier lawyer with a total of only four years as a House member? Being mayor of New York may not be running the Allied war effort in WW II, but it's a heck of a lot more qualifying than the qualifications some past occupants or current candidates bring to the table.

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Yes, all of those people would be better qualified. I really don't see how you can believe otherwise. In any case, even if you disagree with that statement, that does not make Guiliani a good candidate. Or is your claim that every one of his competitors is less qualified than he is? I never named my own political affiliations. I just see it as being blatantly obvious that Guiliani is not the best option.

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History has shown that past job experience ("qualifications") is no indicator of on-the-job performance as president. It's not like the person has to do every job themselves, they only have like a ton of experts they can call on to help. What job exactly would qualify one for President of the United States? Perhaps we should let the candidates run small South American countries first, just to see how they'd do with a lesser post, before moving them up the presidential ladder to the really big countries?

And for the record, I think you are way underestimating what it takes to be mayor of New York, or any large city for that matter. You can argue how successful he was, or whether he deserves the credit he claims, or his methods and policies, but he was far from a failure as mayor. Some mayors really screw up their cities, or are terribly ineffectual, you can't say that about Giuliani.

[Taso]

lol, agreed. Like I said, New York City is basically a country. What, 8 million people? Greece has what, 10 million people?