New Fight Question

[aceupthepants]

You guys realize UFC is MMA which is mixed martial arts. The best fighters in the UFC/Pride are well versed in a wide array of martial arts. To think someone of a single discipline could beat someone who cross trains is stupid.

[Sanchez1Fan]

and the ufc guy trains too kill too. his moves are very deadly it's just that the ref and the sport the objective is not to kill your opponent. but in a life and death situation it's not hard to uses the death move used in the ring to cause actual death. when a fighter uses a choke hold in the ring the oponent taps out and he wins, if he doesnt let go the guy will die. if he ko's you the ref steps in and it's over. but in a death match he ko's you and then keeps hiting you till you die. the ufc moves are deadly but not used to kill in the sport. i don't see why this is so hard to figure out.

[George Rice]

Many of your observations apply to good fighters in each discipline.

We're talking about the best 5 in the world here.

Imo, that moves the UF and Martial Arts guy way up in your comparisons.

[gwhiz_612]

One on one is a slightly different story. If we are comparing the world's best of each individual catagory then we have to consider fighting styles individualy also. I would rank as follows.
5th Boxer - Most boxers are 1 dimensional in training and their fighting style so I would rank them last. The boxer might stand a chance against the street fighter but all the others would have more advanced technique's such as grappling and throat chopping etc..
4th Street fighter - The street fighter is at a disadavantage mainly because in street fighting you usually uses weapons basicly anything you can get your hands on. However in this case there is nothing to use but your body or the opponents. The only reason I rank him/her higher than the boxer is because of the broad styles of fighting that he/she may have knowledge of especially in a death match.
3rd Navy Seal - Again these are the best of the best and I esteem these as the military elite in many areas. Therein is the problem and therefore the lower rank, they are trained in much more than hand to hand combat. They have to be experts in everything from stealth ops to map reading, weapons training and the list goes on and on. Also they dont have the fight experience that the Ultimate fighter has. If anyone knows a Navy seal ask them how many hand to hand fights they got into, see what Im saying. Majority of what they do is not physically combative.
2nd UFC fighter - Yeah these guys are bad ass, relentless, blood thirsty fight mongers that will anihilate the majority of this field but against the best martial arts fighter in the world I dont think so. Especially when the weight of each fighter is equal. Martial arts is too dynamic and most masters are skilled in more than just one art. That leaves me with the final answer and clear cut winner of this event...
1st Martial Arts Fighter .

[George Rice]

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I wasn't talking about multiple opponents at once.

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Then your talking about 10 different match-ups?

In any event, that changes alot.

That moves the Seal up, as well as the street fighter. But only in the long run.

I still think the Martial Arts expert uses his defensive skills to avoid the ultimate fighter enough to beat him in the long run.

And I am assuming no restriction on techniques or tactics. Just the no-gloves, and no weapons.

Martial Arts 4-0 (2:1 against the UF)

Ultimate Fighter 3-1 (3:2 against the Seal, 7:3 against the street fighter)

Seal 2-2

Street Fighter 1-3

Boxer 0-4

The size of the cage is an issue too. The smaller the cage the worse for the martial arts expert.

[Stuey]

Do the fighters know who they are fighting before the fight? How much do they know and how long do they have to prepare?

The more they know and and the longer they have the more I favor the navy seal. He will use the info and time to the greatest advantage as he has planned to kill in the past and the others never have.

[Sanchez1Fan]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5221808AAd2i9Z

this link basicaly says the same thing i said. that is that seals pretty much train mma, but they do it very limited and would prefer to just shoot you. now the ufc guy trains it all day every day.

[PhantomGoose]

The top fighter for the job could wind up in any of these groups, depending on circumstances. We're not talking about the average person from any one of these groups, but THE guy.

The top street-fighter might have a criminal history that would keep him out of the military (so he'd never have had the opportunity to be a Navy Seal).

It's the same as asking which of the major sports has the best "overall" male athlete in it (in terms of pure overall physical ability). It depends where the top athlete chose to go, and what his options were.

One year it might be Michael Jordan, another time it might Deion Sanders, or Lance Armstrong, or maybe he's a midfielder on an Italian soccer team, whatever. They could come from anywhere.

Same thing for the top fighter. He could come from, and wind up, anywhere.

[Eagles]

I'd imagine being in an inclosure would be a huge advantage to the ufc/ martial arts guy because that is what they are accustomed to.

[Eagles]

This is for navy seals

PHYSICAL FITNESS STANDARDS

PHYSICAL EVOLUTION REQUIRED TIME
FIRST PHASE

50 meter underwater swim PASS/FAIL
Underwater knot tying PASS/FAIL
Drown proofing test PASS/FAIL
Basic Lifesaving test PASS/FAIL
1200 meter pool swim with fins 45 min
1 mile bay swim with fins 50 min
1 mile ocean swim with fins 50 min
1 l/2 mile ocean swim with fins 70 min
2 mile ocean swim with fins 95 min
Obstacle course 15 min
4 mile timed run 32 min

POST HELL WEEK

2000 meter conditioning pool swim without fins Completion
1 1/2 mile night bay swim with fins Completion
2 mile ocean swim with fins 85 min
4 mile timed run 32 min
Obstacle course 13 min

SECOND PHASE

2 mile ocean swim with fins 80 min
4 mile timed run (in boots) 31 min
Obstacle course 10:30
3 I/2 mile ocean swim with fins Completion
5 1/2 mile ocean swim with fins Completion

THIRD PHASE

Obstacle course 10 min
4 mile timed run (in boots) 30 min
14 mile run Completion
2 mile ocean swim with fins 75 min

RUNNING SCHEDULE I

WEEKS #1, 2: 2 miles/day, 8:30 pace, M/W/F (6 miles/ week)
WEEK #3: No running. High risk of stress fractures
WEEK #4: 3 miles/day, M/W/F (9 miles/wk)
WEEKS #5, 6: 2/3/4/2 miles, M/Tu/Th/F (11 miles/wk)
WEEKS #7,8: 4/4/5/3 miles, M/Tu/Th/F (16 miles/ wk)
WEEK #9: same as #7,8 (16 miles/ wk)


PHYSICAL TRAINING SCHEDULE I (Mon/Wed/Fri)
SETS OF REPETITIONS
WEEK #1: 4X15 PUSHUPS
4X20 SITUPS
3X3 PULL UPS
WEEK #2: 5X20 PUSHUPS
5X20 SITUPS
3X3 PULL UPS
WEEK #3,4: 5X25 PUSHUPS
5X25 SITUPS
3X4 PULL UPS
WEEK #5,6: 6X25 PUSHUPS
6X25 SITUPS
2X8 PULL UPS
WEEK #7,8: 6X30 PUSHUPS
6X30 SITUPS
2X10 PULL UPS
WEEK #9: 6X30 PUSHUPS
6X30 SITUPS
3X10 PULL UPS

SWIMMING SCHEDULE I
(sidestroke with no fins 4-5 days a week)

WEEKS #1, 2: Swim continuously for 15 min.
WEEKS #3, 4: Swim continuously for 20 min.
WEEKS #5, 6: Swim continuously for 25 min.
WEEKS #7, 8: Swim continuously for 30 min.
WEEK #9: Swim continuously for 35 min.

RUNNING SCHEDULE II
(M/TulTh/F/Sa)

WEEKS #1,2: (3/5/4/5/2)miles 19 miles/week
WEEKS #3, 4: (4/5/6/4/3) miles 22 miles/week
WEEK #5: (5/5/6/4/4) miles 24 miles/week
WEEK #6: (5/6/6/6/4) miles 27 miles/week
WEEK #7: (6/6/6/6/6) miles 30 miles/week

PT SCHEDULE II
(Mon/Wed/Fri)

SETS OF REPETITIONS
WEEK #1, 2: 6X30 PUSHUPS
6X35 SITUPS
3X10 PULL UPS
3X20 DIPS
WEEK #3, 4: lOX20 PUSHUPS
10X25 SITUPS
4X10 PULL UPS
10X15 DIPS
WEEK #5: 15X20 PUSHUPS
15X25 SITUPS
4X12 PULLUPS
15X15 DIPS
WEEK #6: 20X20 PUSHUPS
20X25 SITUPS
5X12 PULL UPS
20X15 DIPS

PYRAMID WORKOUTS

# OF REPETITIONS
PULL UPS: 1,2,3,4,5,4,3,2,1
PUSHUPS: 2,4,6,8,10,8,6,4,2 (2X # pull ups)
SITUPS: 3,6,9,12,15,12,9,6,3 (3X #pull ups)
DIPS: same as pushups


SWIMMING WORKOUTS II
(4-5 days/week)

WEEKS #1, 2: Swim continuously for 35 min.
WEEKS #3, 4: Swim continuously for 45 min.with fins.
WEEK #5: Swim continuously for 60 min. with fins.
WEEK #6: Swim continuously for 75 min. with fins.