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Old 11-12-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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still TT pwns hanley by a sick amount

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this is so wrong. Look at the correct UZR values as posted earlier. Here it is again if you missed.

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/inde...st_of_2007_uzr

Tulowitzki +20
Ramirez -20

Then look at VORP. They are the same position, so you shouldn't get confused for this one.

Ramirez 89.5
Tulowitzki 37.8

Ramirez was worth 69.5 runs when you combine them. Tulowitzki 57.8 runs. Not to mention the park factors.

Good night.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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still TT pwns hanley by a sick amount

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this is so wrong. Look at the correct UZR values as posted earlier. Here it is again if you missed.

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/inde...st_of_2007_uzr

Tulowitzki +20
Ramirez -20

Then look at VORP. They are the same position, so you shouldn't get confused for this one.

Ramirez 89.5
Tulowitzki 37.8

Ramirez was worth 69.5 runs when you combine them. Tulowitzki 57.8 runs. Not to mention the park factors.

Good night.

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wow, like i have a bad day and sound like an idiot. this is like normal for you though. so YOURE saying hanley was like one win better than TT.....yet you dont think RB was a terribe choice for ROY?


how [censored] stupid can you be?


(also, my post about TT pwning HR was OBVIOUSLY IN REGARDS TO FIELDING as thats what was being discussed)

i can go to bed knowing that even on my worst day i am light years ahead of retards like you.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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rollins has been good for a long while now.

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now you're changing your argument. you said rollins > utley going ahead. rollins has only been remotely close to utley's level for ONE season, this one. he has been great, therefore, for ONE season, one that looks like a career year. stop overrating people based on one season.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

Both VORP (offense, in case you haven't figured that stat out yet) and UZR (defense) were being discussed. With as much incorrect information that you provided in this thread, why would I assume you were pointing out something obvious (that TT > HR in fielding) instead of backing up your earlier wrong assumption (that TT > HR overall)?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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rollins has been good for a long while now.

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now you're changing your argument. you said rollins > utley going ahead. rollins has only been remotely close to utley's level for ONE season, this one. he has been great, therefore, for ONE season, one that looks like a career year. stop overrating people based on one season.

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wtf.

i already stated my agrument about rollins being > going forward was based on projected WARP from PECOTA. not on one great season.

i really want to be shot right now so i am not compelled to come back for more of this.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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the thing is, replacement level SS's are worth more than replacement level 1B.

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No.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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the thing is, replacement level SS's are worth more than replacement level 1B.

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No.

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shouldn't you be out getting drunk and hitting on all the loose political interns in DC Thremp?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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the thing is, replacement level SS's are worth more than replacement level 1B.

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No.

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you are right, i was wrong with that assumption (wow kids see how easy it is to admit you are incorrect?).

i know it doesn't measure defense quaility, but i was silly to assume that replacement level SS > replacement level 1B.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

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the thing is, replacement level SS's are worth more than replacement level 1B.

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No.

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you are right, i was wrong with that assumption (wow kids see how easy it is to admit you are incorrect?).

i know it doesn't measure defense quaility, but i was silly to assume that replacement level SS > replacement level 1B.

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Sublime, you seem to be having a bad night. You should hit the showers, or go to sleep (I'm saying this in the least [censored] way possible).

Hey, here's an awesome music video to cheer you up.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:59 PM
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ty muresan. i am going to showers actually.
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