Shaun's beginners guide to 180s - Page 9

rapsu · #81 03-09-2007, 05:55 AM

I don´t know if I am winning player in these $20 stake or not. I have played these 70 tournaments with -30% roi. I have been twice in the final table finishing second and 7. or something and also maybe 3-4 10-18. places. How many tournaments I would need to play to know for sure? Also how are these 50/90 tournaments, are there much more skill involved and how big bankroll would you advice for those?

TheFoxNL · #82 03-09-2007, 12:37 PM

lol first 4/180 i play after reading this
10 mins under way and already stack of 5700 lol

Takshi · #83 03-09-2007, 01:11 PM

Real nice read, thanks!

APipeDream · #84 05-14-2007, 07:31 PM

Based on your "overlimping" strategy early with pocket pairs...with my stack, is this stretching the limit based on the bb raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t1930)
CO (t2155)
Button (t2525)
Hero (t3970)
BB (t1300)
UTG (t1975)
UTG+1 (t4080)
MP1 (t1330)
MP2 (t860)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 raises to t120, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t860, 2 folds, Button calls t860, Hero ???

ZJ123 · #85 05-14-2007, 07:34 PM

snap fold.

BulletsBlitz · #86 07-02-2007, 02:01 AM

Thank you for the great post.

These are my favorite tournaments online. I have had a fair amount of success with them. I don't use PT yet, but Sharkscope says i have a ROI of 60%. That is overall and most of my big cashes have come from these 180's.

One tip i can add is that these tournies are teeming with fish. In the first 2-3 levels, i typically play totally ABC until I make a monster, at which point i usually overbet and get paid about as frequently as i would on a value bet. There are just so many players who are willing to get broke with just a pair. This strategy usually gets me past the first break w/ 4000-5000 chips.

chrismystero · #87 07-02-2007, 03:20 AM

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Based on your "overlimping" strategy early with pocket pairs...with my stack, is this stretching the limit based on the bb raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t1930)
CO (t2155)
Button (t2525)
Hero (t3970)
BB (t1300)
UTG (t1975)
UTG+1 (t4080)
MP1 (t1330)
MP2 (t860)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 raises to t120, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t860, 2 folds, Button calls t860, Hero ???

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is this a serious post?

SenorPokes · #88 07-03-2007, 04:18 PM

Hi Shaun, I liked the article you wrote to start this thread a lot, but have one point of confusion near the beginning that i wanted you to clarify. When the blinds are 10/20 (level 1) and everyone has 75bb's, you say that you see a common mistake of people opening for 5-6x with TT or AQo, "hands that are most likely to be best PF but are rarely hands you are very confident with postflop". Is the mistake that you would rather see them raising less / limping to keep the pot small and then inflate the pot after hitting large - or raising more to cut down on implieds and increasing the dent to your tournment life should someone show up with goods better than TT / AQo? Needless to say, putting in a large raise there of about 7.5-10x is not a hell of a lot more than 5-6x in terms of chips because the blinds are so small, but i just wanted to understand the root of your point here... and i'm starting to think it has to do with cutting down on implieds.

A second question from the same paragraph was with the statement that the 10/20 level is the only level where it it not a big mistake to be passing PF. What do you mean by passing here (folding PF/overlimping PF), and how is it not a mistake here, but a mistake later on?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

GotQuads · #89 07-03-2007, 06:48 PM

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Based on your "overlimping" strategy early with pocket pairs...with my stack, is this stretching the limit based on the bb raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t1930)
CO (t2155)
Button (t2525)
Hero (t3970)
BB (t1300)
UTG (t1975)
UTG+1 (t4080)
MP1 (t1330)
MP2 (t860)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 raises to t120, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t860, 2 folds, Button calls t860, Hero ???

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you have already invested 15 chips, so you're getting great pot odds -> call

FuriousD · #90 07-06-2007, 03:27 AM

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no others have talked about named most of the moves except the go stop go which has become my fav move vs light 3bettors.
Basically they are all ways to fight back against aggressive players when your stack is at different levels. And/or your position is diff

Go and go are good for 25-30bbs you 3-bet someone OOP and leave like 2/3rds to a full PSB left in your stack to shove any flop

resteal shove is just when someone opens and you shove with a weaker hand than their calling range. I think it was anksy who made a few threads about this that had great discussion look in anthology. Basically good for 12-20bb stacks this move pos doesn't matter

stop and go is when you flat call a opening raise and shove any flop good for short stacks BB 7-11 depending on opener.

go stop go, When you open raise and an aggressive person 3bets you in pos and you think he's light but will prob call your 4bet shove PF with anything you've opened to get since he's a decent player and getting a good price. You flat call the 3bet and shove any flop. Good for 25-35bb

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How do you know which hands to do these with preflop?