NYC Broadway club just got raided. - Page 9

other1 · #81 10-17-2005, 10:47 PM

Tips.

Shoe · #82 10-17-2005, 10:54 PM

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Bigger than normal tips? I don't think just a regular dealer's salary (including tips) would be worth getting thrown in jail for. Now if they are making as much as other types of dealers, perhaps it would be worth the risk.

playersare · #83 10-17-2005, 11:01 PM

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Bigger than normal tips? I don't think just a regular dealer's salary (including tips) would be worth getting thrown in jail for. Now if they are making as much as other types of dealers, perhaps it would be worth the risk.

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private cardroom dealers tend to get $2 tips per hand rather than $1 like in a casino. also, more hands per hour as a higher percentage of players know what they're doing, and want to maximize the action for the time charge.

$50/hr cash is probably a conservative, and minimum estimate. could easily be double that.

other1 · #84 10-17-2005, 11:02 PM

In general dealers in clubs get tips and no salary.

If you assume anywhere from 25-40 hands an hour with an average of at least a $1/hand it can be pretty decent money.

Whether it's 'worth it' is a question for each person to decide. Half or more of the dealers arrested were not being arrested for the first time, so clearly they made an educated decision.

satelliter · #85 10-17-2005, 11:03 PM

Yes, the NYPD choose which laws to enforce and whom to arrest, with input from various "higher-ups". Just ask the demonstrators and passersby at the Republican Convention. I've lived in Manhattan for about 40 years and the attitude is usually live and let live. The Police want to smoke pot, get a special massage and play poker as much as anyone else. For the most part, they react to pressure from the mayor, the DA or the press. Giuliani came the closest to turning it into a police state, with sweeping raids on specific neighborhoods with hundreds of cops, enforcement of archaic laws like dancing in bars (verboten),and arresting almost all beggars. Thank god for term limits. On the whole, I'd say New York cops are probably among the best. Racist incidents are frequent, but I believe are even more frequent around the country just less publicized.

KSOT · #86 10-18-2005, 12:34 AM

All this talk of NYC card clubs and I still don't know of a single one.

Can someone please help this pitifully uninformed low limit player out? I live on the upper west side of manhattan. AC is too far away to visit every time I get the urge to play live =/

PM?

BKyef · #87 10-18-2005, 02:34 AM

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Bigger than normal tips? I don't think just a regular dealer's salary (including tips) would be worth getting thrown in jail for. Now if they are making as much as other types of dealers, perhaps it would be worth the risk.

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private cardroom dealers tend to get $2 tips per hand rather than $1 like in a casino. also, more hands per hour as a higher percentage of players know what they're doing, and want to maximize the action for the time charge.

$50/hr cash is probably a conservative, and minimum estimate. could easily be double that.

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Not to worry the guys and girls did very well there. If a dealer did the full shift until close they could take over $700 a night. It's a long shift but that's better than any AC or LV dealer does.

Whether or not it's worth the risk is up to an individual to decide. If they get an ACD and keep clean for 6 months there is no record.

KSOT · #88 10-18-2005, 02:49 AM

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If they get an ACD and keep clean for 6 months there is no record.

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That is... until they try to get a government job that requires a clean background. It's always on your record, even if it's "off your record."

Emperor · #89 10-18-2005, 03:47 AM

Government Jobs are rigged...

teddygraham · #90 10-18-2005, 05:05 PM

Dealers make tips only. And while the tips may be larger than in casinos and may seem like a large sum on an lump sum, end-of-night basis, remember that this job comes with no benefits (health, unemployment, vacation, holidays, etc.), the hours are long (shifts can run 14 hours) and if business is down (say from a holiday or police raid) then pay is down and/or you're out of a job.

And the implication that it's okay for the dealers to risk time in jail because they are making "a lot" of money, is absurd.

Dealers no more 'profit' from a game of cards (the standard for the charges dealers face) than players who win at said game (but who face no legal problems for being involved in the game).

Perhaps some dealers at one or two clubs are making large sums, but most in the city are scraping by a living, some have families, and none deserve to be jailed.

Tip your dealers. And don't get down on anyone who's trying to earn a decent buck in this city.