How Kenny Tran Rates Internet Players

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

KT Is obv off base with his comments, lots of internter players woukd slay him hu

[greg nice]

awesome raptor

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The best thing about this, is we could actually set it up, and everyone from our side would be very interested in playing.

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i think this is obv the key. if these guys think the internet players are so bad, they would be itching to play. it seems like only vice versa is true.

thats really all you need to know.

[EN09]

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David, im not really sure how super high stakes games work. when i played 500-1k nl/plo game at bobbys room this summer, it was capped at 7 people. most of the other higher stakes live games i have played start off 10 handed, but then eventually break down to a few of the better players playing short, then everyone quitting saying 'this stupid kid keeps reraising, hes so bad.' in a full ring 10 handed setting, i think Tran is generally right here, but saying not 1 of the top 20.. i mean cmon. most of us 'online' players dont know how to fold KK pf. it is the second best hand after all. Most of us DO seem to be able to adjust though but god forbid we do, they kick us out of the game because we play 'too tight' and dont give 'enough action'. apparently the 'live players' want it both ways. tons of idiot fish that play too many hands and play them bad.

MY guess is tran played online a little bit at higher stakes games (50-1+) and got crushed short handed. i dont know enough about his game to even comment with any authority, so this is speculation, but i would venture to guess that he tried to run a bunch of bluffs like he would in a live game against the nitty people that fold a lot and got snap looked up by 3rd pair more than once, and got frustrated. A lot of the high stakes online regs just have a ton more experience in playing short handed, as thats really the only sort of games that get off the ground. For him to say that not one of the top 20 high stakes NL players is considered an online player is just absolutely ridiculous. I would take me, durr, z, hac, (urindanger and his bro) phil (jman) and whichever 4 guys he picks in a 10 handed game all day, and OH MY GOD if the game was short handed.. The best thing about this, is we could actually set it up, and everyone from our side would be very interested in playing.

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"nh", say the railbirds...

[MaverickUSC]

I can win at live poker. I barely win online. I am happy to say that the online games and players are better, and if they're not, they're different enough that I have not been able to adjust in eight years since Planet Poker. I'd still go with the former.

Devo

[EmmaDillema]

david just wants to stir some drama

[Splendour]

I agree with Tran that online players have trouble folding and that's probably due to the inherent nature of the game being different online from the live game. He's probably exaggerating though about none of the top 20 players being online ones though.
The online game seems to encourage the "no fold" tendency. The weird thing though is so many people playing live also play online that this tendency may be spreading.
Someone in this thread said onliners always disparage live players and vice versa and I've observed this to be true, but poker players are poker players so I think the disparagement is kind of narrowminded and misses the fact you are comparing apples to oranges. The live and online games are different so its just group pride talking.

[SABR42]

LOL at Kenny Tran saying online players can't lay down a hand.

Isn't he himself a huge calling station?

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] raptor's post btw.

[Daddy Warbucks]

I love how people have seen Kenny play one NL tournament and expertly know that he's a huge station.

[threeplusthree]

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I love how people have seen Kenny play one NL tournament and expertly know that he's a huge station.

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[Daddy Warbucks]

Ignore is a powerful feature.