Downswing Need Sanity Check from 2+2ers

[mookboi]

Basically what you are saying is: Um, look at me, I play 27/3 and I win money, so wtf.

Basically what the other posters are saying is: Yes, you win, but if you just raised an extra 15% of your hands, you would win more.

[jerryf1914]

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Basically what the other posters are saying is: Yes, you win, but if you just raised an extra 15% of your hands, you would win more.

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and what i'm saying is thats bs for 10nl. limping = winning

[mookboi]

Ok, how about a propbet? I play 100K 10NL, 12 tabling, playing at least 20 VPIP and at least 16PFR, and if I run lower than 7.75PTBB/100, I'll ship you $1K. If it's the other way around, you ship me $1K.

I loves me some propbets.

[wslee00]

this is getting interesting...

[Nairb]

What is amazing is he has logged over 20000 hands and hasnt learned this. Some are destined to be 10nl 4 life.

[kurto]

to be fair, he's logged over 200K hands and has been winning at a reasonable rate.

Could he have won more? Perhaps. But his style has been working for him and probably are more appropriate for THOSE tables then people give credit for.

A lot of the reason we raise is to (1) build a pot (2) isolate/narrow the field (3) disguise our hands (4) buy the button (5) steal blinds, etc.

When the table is littered with calling stations, reasons (2), (3), (4) & (5) all disappear.

Also- when players are more likely to make HUGE mistakes postflop for large amounts of money, the more correct it is to see more flops cheap.

I agree that this isn't the best advice for a new player. But to discount that a loose passive style can't be a winning strategy is wrong.

[Nairb]

LPP can be a winning style, obviously by his numbers it is for him. However giving that advice to a player that is weak at post flop play is a losing proposition and goes against what 95% of the posts have said, many giving very solid advice.

I also contend he would be a complete donator at any level higher than 25, maybe 50nl. If his goal is to be marginally profitable at 10nl then his goal has been achieved.

[hennnerz]

He doesn't have $1k to ship when he loses.

The fact you post so much and still play 28/3 makes my head asplode. How the hell do you know limping=money when you never play any different?!

[jerryf1914]

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Ok, how about a propbet? I play 100K 10NL, 12 tabling, playing at least 20 VPIP and at least 16PFR, and if I run lower than 7.75PTBB/100, I'll ship you $1K. If it's the other way around, you ship me $1K.

I loves me some propbets.

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no thanks on the propbet but i'd be very interested to see your results.

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What is amazing is he has logged over 20000 hands and hasnt learned this. Some are destined to be 10nl 4 life.


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what?

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to be fair, he's logged over 200K hands and has been winning at a reasonable rate.

Could he have won more? Perhaps. But his style has been working for him and probably are more appropriate for THOSE tables then people give credit for.

A lot of the reason we raise is to (1) build a pot (2) isolate/narrow the field (3) disguise our hands (4) buy the button (5) steal blinds, etc.

When the table is littered with calling stations, reasons (2), (3), (4) & (5) all disappear.

Also- when players are more likely to make HUGE mistakes postflop for large amounts of money, the more correct it is to see more flops cheap.

I agree that this isn't the best advice for a new player. But to discount that a loose passive style can't be a winning strategy is wrong.


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well said [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[jerryf1914]

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He doesn't have $1k to ship when he loses.

The fact you post so much and still play 28/3 makes my head asplode. How the hell do you know limping=money when you never play any different?!

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as i said earlier in this thread i use to play the other way and it never worked