Fred Thompson for Poker?

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followed by the personalization and the gratuitous insult.

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I didn't insult you. You really did sound angry in trying to get the post you didn't agree with censored.

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This wouldnt be a [censored] issue if the primary system wasnt so gd broken. EVERY state has EnviroCommies, CA and WA especially. Democrats need to remember they can't win national elections without totally pandering. Giuliani is the Democrats best run-off guy as is. Is it worth all that time for Visa and Viagra commercials? Would be great to have a moderate wing REFUSE to rally behind any panderer. Clinton isn't a moderate in the least, but she made her deal with the devil a long time ago

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FYP since Engineer felt it provided content.

THOMPSON on the other hand (bringing it back to avoid ban)has as many skeletons in his closet as Hilliary and Jillianni.

Ron paul seems to be suprisingly absent of these skeletons. The worst thing that has been said about him to date is that he voted for some pork for his district. OH TEH NOES!

VOTE RON PAUL

PS. RP is also for deregulating the internets

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Both parties have issues with the fact that the primaries favor candidates who adhere closest to the party doctrine.

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VOTE RON PAUL

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Anyway, discussion of the primary process is relevant, as it helps us deduce the likelihood of Thompson saying anything in our favor. So long as FoF-types are influential at the primary level, it's unlikely. The same is true of Democrats with the war and issues like that.

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This wouldnt be a [censored] issue if the primary system wasnt so gd broken. EVERY state has EnviroCommies, CA and WA especially. Democrats need to remember they can't win national elections without totally pandering. Giuliani is the Democrats best run-off guy as is. Is it worth all that time for Visa and Viagra commercials? Would be great to have a moderate wing REFUSE to rally behind any panderer. Clinton isn't a moderate in the least, but she made her deal with the devil a long time ago

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FYP since Engineer felt it provided content.

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As a Republican, I do agree more with your version. Still, I think Lesislurker has a right to state his opinion, so long as it's on-topic.

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Wow, what did I do? I wasn't aiming for your Cheerios. Lets see, what did I say? The primaries are so broken Thompson can't support poker without losing the nutjobs who determine who gets the money and press and nomination. Ok, so I curse, swear, vituperate, and condemn. Sue me, you're supposed to be a damned poker player. You've heard worse. Its ON TOPIC. I think I have a right in the post to be mildly upset, and if you go back and read I think I put it up before the "warning". Im not trolling, Im not looking for a fight, we are having a discussion in here and no one else involved in the flow of it has a problem with it. If 42 it wants me to edit it away, fine, but I definitely don't see it the way you do.

THe Ron Paul thing..........I just rescinded myself from the local Meetup group and I don't think I'm voting for him anymore. I've always wanted to see some competence and sanity from a candidate, and RP has started to label EVERYTHING evil. Going back to the gold standard? Abolish the Fed? WIthdraw from the UN, NAFTA, and the WTO? I have read soem Iowa stump things, and I just can't. Add in a total [censored] local politician that is working with the local group who is a bigot, homophobe, xenophobe, and a tard
I have to walk away. That guy included even in an informal setting in the campaign was the straw that broke the camel's back. I guess I have to keep waiting till I am 35 or a sane Libertarian who understands we can't remake the world system runs. He is a nice man, but I can't back him any longer. Guess I am left with Bill Richardson. If I thought my backign RP would get poker back, Id keep doing it, but I don't. Poker just can't be the sole reason I vote for someone. Im not that big a self interested ass. And I can't put in time and work for someone I feel I can't trust in office.

Maybe if Fred shows some traction in polling he can stand up for poker, and I would come along. Ill take a mild Republican Prez anyday. I liked Bush 41 and Fred is more reminiscent of him than anyone else. I think if he gave poker to us, and was solidly "life" they FoF crowd would swing behind him to avoid Rudy or Mitt. I think by Thanksgiving Dobson will have to decide on a horse. I know he wants Brownback or Huckabee, but he ain't stupid. I like
Thompson's wait and see approach, he isn't spending huge $ and is getting tons of press. Not maxing out primary contributions early is a big plus for him, as if it comes down to him and Mittyboy(have you seen those gay oven mitts his people wear?) he will need every penny he can get. He has tapped the least of his political capital of anyone in the race, save AlGore. I hope Bolcerek is at least talking to Thompson's people, and AL will be a good bridge. The next administration will shape the domestic firms entry into the US market, and love it or hate it, we will all have to follow the fish crowd to them. WTO, Imega, Kaplan aside, the next Prez is important to how much we can make. Thompson I think just won't care where Rudy would hate, Mitt would condemn, and well McCain isnt going to win. So he is Republican #1 outside RP, and Ive jumped that ship. Wow, to just get a damned word out of the PPA if Thompson is at LEAST sympathetic would go a long way to forming my opinion and backing.
I think if they had us organized i KNOW we could swing Nevada to 40% Thompson. 40% in this big a field is like tacking on 10% extra Super Tuesday delegates. New Hampshire I gave up predicting, those people are finicky in extremis. SC I think we can impact because Brownback and Huckabee will take the mainline Protestant vote(which matters way out of proportion there) because those guys still teach Mormonism is a cult, and believe it. McCain was slaughtered there in 2000, how much to do with him, and how much the black baby rumours mattered, I can't tell you. But, even SC has moderate libertarian secular Republicans. Thompson is the nearest geographically based as well. Tenn esee mountains and SC's abut. Some efforts at Clemson and Columbia(USC) I think we could push him over 20% and into a pluraltiy. Maybe a good lifer, a guy who is seen to be a shot against Hillary, and they can overlook poker. I don't think the rank and file has that rancour that Dobson radiates. THough its worth noting SC is one of the few states to ever roll back gaming in the 90s and oughts. The man needs a fulcrum to work from within the Party, and he isn't strong anywhere, but he isnt loathed anywhere yet. Im going to back up , and put his candidacy personally in the wait and see column.

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Wow, what did I do? .....

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Since I made seven or so posts sticking up for you, can I assume this isn't to me? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Probobly that "quick reply".

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Isn't this exactly the kind of post that is supposed to earn a quick 24-hour ban from 4_2_it?

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No.

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"No"? Not exactly a deep analysis, is it? That's not typical of the thought you usually put into your posts!

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I am not afraid of politics encroaching in this forum. There is a natural overlap, but there is no need for partisan rants or Clinton bashing...

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I'm typing one-handed today.... Torn Pec

[Legislurker]

no its not you, who is that guy. Im on tilt enough i might say something bannable sooner or later...............think , nope, am , taking batteries out of the keyboard for tonight before i lose Stars chat for the 5th timeand 2p2 for the first.

And uhm, one-handed typing.......T M I