***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread September***

[Wolfram]

lol,

I'm drunk and playing 5/T on stars right now.

I will hunt down you smartlags and destroy you all. plz join my tables if you like free money.

[Wolfram]

waffle,
jesus christ, 3bet pf and bet the friggin flop.

[waffle]

calling preflop and checkraising any flop puts in the same amount of action, while hiding information by strengthening my 'called preflop and checkraised the flop' range. that's how i roll.

[Absolution]

I like it when people pull the screwplay on me. It's always a big hand and I get to save money where I would have called down. It's so much fun to be fancy that people can't resist.

[TheDudeChad]

Brag: Managed to end up on the positive side tonight despite some gross hands.
Beat: Not drunk

Bonus tips from excellent Saturday night tards.

Hand 1: Straightforward application of pot odds.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, MP folds.

Turn: (5.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Kc 5d (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has Td Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: BB wins 9.16 BB. </font>

Hand 2: Never respect button raises. (3bet any 2 suited) Also, always employ deceptive value tarps with flush draws.

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 2d 5d (flush, king high).
Hero has Ah Jh (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 11.50 BB. </font>

Hand 3: Extract as much value as possible on flop with gutshots. Once you make the nuts, just try to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. Blocking bet on river obv.

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (15.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ah 2s (straight, five high).
Hero has Kd Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins 17.50 BB. </font>

Hand 4: Easy flop call with backdoor draws to nut flush, nut straight, nut two pair, nut trips. ~50% equity.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (5.66 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.66 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9s As (two pair, aces and nines).
Button has 7d 8d (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins 7.66 BB. </font>

Hand 5: Cap every street drawing dead.
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (17.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 25.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8c 8d (full house, eights full of kings).
Button has Kd Ks (four of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Button wins 25.25 BB. </font>

P.S. too much action on the last hand? Villain was dumb as nails. (95/10)

[yourface]

I don't think button's flop peel in hand 4 is terrible
I think of it as a float, hoping you give up with a small pocket or better high card. I estimate he has 2.5 outs worth of backdoor draws

[TheDudeChad]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't think button's flop peel in hand 4 is terrible
I think of it as a float, hoping you give up with a small pocket or better high card. I estimate he has 2.5 outs worth of backdoor draws

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm sure thats exactly what he was thinking [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But on a serious note, I never (with few exceptions) fold to a single flop bet in position HU.

[MacGuyV]

[censored] rigged [censored]. 5 for my last 8,000,000,000 straight/flush draws &amp; all 5 times they complete better draws. I'm done w/ this [censored].

[Robin Foolz]

took the day of (did play some nl200 though). been reviewing some of my recent limit hands. i found some of these.
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Donkey Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8BB, 2 players)
BB checks, hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
<font color="#ffffff">BB Shows 5c 7c</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero Shows 5d 10c</font>

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Donkey Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.67SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.33BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.33BB
<font color="#ffffff">hero Shows Ad Kc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB Shows Ah 7h</font>


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Donkey Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
3 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (3 players) hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.67SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.33BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.33BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.33BB
<font color="#ffffff">hero Shows As 9s</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB Shows Kh 4c</font>


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Donkey Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, 4 folds, hero checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.67SB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero caps</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, MP1 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to hero.

Results:
Final pot: 7.33BB


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Donkey Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, hero calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB
<font color="#ffffff">SB Shows 8d 6h</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero Shows 6c Qs</font>


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Donkey Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10SB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10BB
<font color="#ffffff">SB Shows 3d Qd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero Shows 9h 9d</font>

[jba]

those hands hurt my face