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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
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  #811  
Old 09-09-2007, 11:23 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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chaz (my 2 cents),

Fold that hand PF, I've learned the hard way that it's really hard to play those hands OOP and when you do hit you dont get max value. I'd also lead the flop but this is FR so I might be wrong since there are that many villains on the flop.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:27 AM
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Seat 1: Firetribe ( $100 ) <font color="blue">Hero who just showed down air after aggression (and lost 1/2 of his stack)</font>
Seat 3: BSL1CK ( $111.05 )<font color="blue"> 57/18 donk</font>
Seat 10: mayoabu ( $118.90 ) <font color="blue">22/18 over 350 dattamined hands</font>
bofsen posts Small Blind $0.50
stumpster3266 posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Firetribe]

mayoabu raises $4
Firetribe raises $13.50
BSL1CK calls $13.50
Baudrillard folds
bofsen folds
stumpster3266 folds
mayoabu raises $114.90
Firetribe?
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:36 AM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Chaz I think calling preflop is OK since as you mentioned it's a multiway pot plus you close the action and are getting a discount to play.

[Edit - ooops you don't close the action but there is only 1 left to act behind you.]

Whether or not I raise the flop depends on my read of villain. If he's really tight preflop I like calling better than semi-bluffing. If he's a good LAG (LAG preflop but solid postflop) I probably reraise.

I like leading the turn for 1/2 pot and hoping he shoves or at least calls. If you check here and he checks behind a club could kill your action on the river. Your monster hand is well disguised. When you lead this turn for 1/2 the pot lots of villains will think you're trying to set the price for a cheap river and come over the top.

As played I like shoving the river.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:21 PM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($126.60)
Hero ($100)
BB ($146.40)
UTG ($59)
MP ($129.05)
CO ($83)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($6) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($28) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $50</font>, Hero folds.


literally my second hand at this table. i don't see another way to play this. lots of worse hands call my bet, but very rarely do i run into a worse hand once they raise my bet.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Chaz,
Standard.

Karp,
Timing reads with QQ?

Bengie,
I think I might call c/f river.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:56 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Seat 1: Firetribe ( $100 ) <font color="blue">Hero who just showed down air after aggression (and lost 1/2 of his stack)</font>
Seat 3: BSL1CK ( $111.05 )<font color="blue"> 57/18 donk</font>
Seat 10: mayoabu ( $118.90 ) <font color="blue">22/18 over 350 dattamined hands</font>
bofsen posts Small Blind $0.50
stumpster3266 posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Firetribe]

mayoabu raises $4
Firetribe raises $13.50
BSL1CK calls $13.50
Baudrillard folds
bofsen folds
stumpster3266 folds
mayoabu raises $114.90
Firetribe?

[/ QUOTE ]

dhove all day. if you get called and ur behind, you have 2 outs to the nuts
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:11 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
Karp,
Timing reads with QQ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok based on this reply this is quite close either way. The TAG did not hesitate but it was not instant, not sure of the other guy. I have no preivous reads on the timing habits of the TAG.

And also, please provide me with good general timing tells [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:55 PM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($126.60)
Hero ($100)
BB ($146.40)
UTG ($59)
MP ($129.05)
CO ($83)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($6) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($28) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $50</font>, Hero folds.


literally my second hand at this table. i don't see another way to play this. lots of worse hands call my bet, but very rarely do i run into a worse hand once they raise my bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not folding this.
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:12 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($126.60)
Hero ($100)
BB ($146.40)
UTG ($59)
MP ($129.05)
CO ($83)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($6) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($28) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $50</font>, Hero folds.


literally my second hand at this table. i don't see another way to play this. lots of worse hands call my bet, but very rarely do i run into a worse hand once they raise my bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

is PF standard?
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:31 PM
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Seat 5: HrPoker ( $96.30 ) <font color="blue">22/10/2 over 80, has not been out of line</font>
Seat 6: Firetribe ( $127.11 ) <font color="blue">Hero, has been hyper aggressive without showdowns</font>
Ping88 posts Small Blind $0.50
HrPoker posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [Firetribe]

Firetribe raises $3.50
abinitio folds
Ping88 folds
HrPoker calls $2.50

Dealing Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
HrPoker checks
Firetribe bets $7.50 <font color="blue">because he wants to protect</font>
HrPoker calls $7.50

Dealing Turn A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
HrPoker checks
Firetribe bets $20 <font color="blue">controversial turn. did it help villain? who knows. I'm going down with this hand</font>
HrPoker calls $20

Dealing River 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
HrPoker checks
Firetribe bets $66.50 <font color="red">die bastard, die!!!!</font>
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