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Old 09-08-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

it is a topic ive thought about a lot though. i mean people glorify large bankrolls and its really quite unfounded. im a pretty good example of this as i have 300-800 buyins for my regular games, but it seems so suboptimal. all a bankroll is designed to do is minimize risk of ruin, but when you play low, you sometimes sacrifice a lot of EV in the process.

idk, i feel like most msnlers should take more shots than they do, myself included.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:43 PM
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i feel like most msnlers should take more shots than they do, myself included.

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Old 09-08-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

but isn't it more about what you're comfortable losing?

as long as it's large enough, bankroll is irrelevant on a short-term basis.

it then gets broken down into what you're comfortable risking and losing on a daily basis.

with that said, i guess i have pretty nitty bankroll requirements
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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There is a huge opportunity cost if you could be a winning 10/20 player but never take a shot past 2/4 3/6 because ur scared of losing money
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

I'm scared of moving up because my really pretty ptBB/100 will drop and it will depress me.
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

IMO people overestimate how bad it is to go busto

If you have a good rep, "virtual bankroll" can be >>> actual br
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

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There is a huge opportunity cost if you could be a winning 10/20 player but never take a shot past 2/4 3/6 because ur scared of losing money

[/ QUOTE ]BE AFRAID. BE VERY AFRAID.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3887.60
UTG+1: $2972.43
Hero: $4933.46
Button: $2789.67
SB: $2463
BB: $2127

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $120</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($270, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $62.12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $2607.55</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($5609.34, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5609.34)


River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5609.34, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5609.34)


Results:
Final pot: $5609.34
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows Ad As </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button shows Jc Qd </font>
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

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I'm scared of moving up because my really pretty ptBB/100 will drop and it will depress me.

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lol yea, its nice having a winrate &gt;5ptbb - something that is, of course, unsustainable at 10/20+ unless youre destined for nosebleed.
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Official September Thread: General Discussion, whining .. etc

The converter messed up a bit...

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: £2/£5
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with :6c :4c
[color=#cc0000]UTG raises to £20</font>, 2 folds, [color=#cc0000]Hero raises to £65</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: :6s :3d :6h (£132, 2 players)
[color=#cc0000]Hero bets £100</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: :3s (£332, 2 players)
[color=#cc0000]Hero bets £150</font>, UTG calls.

River: :5s (£632, 2 players)
[color=#cc0000]Hero is all-in £720.5</font>, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: £2073

UTG has 55

My biggest pot to date.
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