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Old 10-09-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

Better question IMO since icing the kicker should obv be allowed:
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

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Are you actually a retard, or do you just play one on the internet?

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I was just doing my best to figure out how your argument could have some small measure of validity, and I thought I'd figured out, but I guess I was wrong so that makes me a retard.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

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Are you actually a retard, or do you just play one on the internet?

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I was just doing my best to figure out how your argument could have some small measure of validity, and I thought I'd figured out, but I guess I was wrong so that makes me a retard.

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Its funny how you were bending over backwards to try to make Edge's post seem reasonable and then he called you a retard. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

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The fix for this is simple.... simply say a coach can't call timeout during a field goal attempt.

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i'm fine with coaches calling timeouts. make it so they can't during field goals, no need to bother with any 10 second rules or anything, and this solves all the problems.

i liked the old fashioned icing the kicker, where the timeout would just make the kicker wait. Recent use, where the kick is made then everyone is like wait, what? is anticlimactic and retarded
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

Not too far off-topic. Or, maybe. I say remove the goal post. Touchdown or no points ftw? Am I wrong?
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

There is a 100% chance that there will be a rule to stop this before next year. It denigrades the game. I know you guys all love Jaws, but his defending this practice is ridiculous. As usual Kornheiser is the voice of reason and Jaws spouts off w/o really thinking.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

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could a team do this 3 times in a row with their 3 timeouts?
that would be ridiculous...


EDIT: ok, they can't. good

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Unless the rule has been changed, it can be (and has been) done in NCAA.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

1) How does taking away the coach's ability to call a timeout fix this problem? Yes, the coaches are the ones who are calling the TO's in question, but that's just because it's easier for them. There's no reason a player couldn't basically do the same thing: alert the official that he's going to signal for a TO right before the snap, then make a quick signal at the appropriate time.

2) Of course this should be banned, and it's easy to do. Just make a rule that, on a FG attempt, the defense can't call a TO once the kicking team is set. You can still ice the kicker if you want, but what you can't do is fake out two million people watching the game into thinking they just watched the last play of the game.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?

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1) How does taking away the coach's ability to call a timeout fix this problem? Yes, the coaches are the ones who are calling the TO's in question, but that's just because it's easier for them. There's no reason a player couldn't basically do the same thing: alert the official that he's going to signal for a TO right before the snap, then make a quick signal at the appropriate time.

[/ QUOTE ]It was never a problem when this was the rule. Players calling timeout from field is no issue at all. Other side sees it coming. The coach calling it I don't even think his team has a any idea a timeout is coming most of the time. Otherwise they wouldn't try to block it.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:51 AM
Richard Tanner Richard Tanner is offline
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So a coach can say "I want a timeout, but I want to wait for the ball to be snapped and then have it retroactively applied to the second before the snap" ?

[/ QUOTE ]It seems like it... that's really the dumb part.

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No he can't, a coach (or player for that matter, watch the QB as the clock nears the 2 min. warning) has to say "timeout" or something else to notify the official of exactly when he wants the timeout to be taken.

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