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#71
10-02-2007, 07:16 PM
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[ QUOTE ] People who are looking to invest should know that investing in stocks has more variance than investing in real estate. Stocks can technically lose all their value, all though that is uncommon. This doesn't happen in real estate. However the ROI on average tends to be slightly higher with stocks, although there are little if any tax benefits. In both cases it depends on the current market. In some places real estate investing is not a wise investment, while in others it is a very good investment. Real Estate has always been a much safer investment and will always be. Make no mistake however, if you know what you're doing in the stock market you can make likely make more money than in real estate, and it requires significantly less work after your money is invested than in real estate. Not to mention real estate is something that takes time to reap the benefits from moreso than stocks. A good thing about real estate however is that when you buy a home you can profit before even selling it by renting out to tenants. Usually you aren't able to rent it out to somebody for higher than your mortgage payments, but you at least get to take a much smaller hit. The biggest disadvantage to that however is you can't sell the home whenever you please if somebody is on a lease, but it's still a wise decision to rent it out. Sort of rambled off there but basically both are good investments if you know what you're doing. Real estate is less voilatile while the stock market tends to generate better returns. [/ QUOTE ] this post is just wrong or making assumptions all over the place [/ QUOTE ] agreed. really hate it when people just throw out random opinions as facts when they don't understand what they are talking about. 
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#72
10-02-2007, 07:18 PM
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[ QUOTE ] People who are looking to invest should know that investing in stocks has more variance than investing in real estate. Stocks can technically lose all their value, all though that is uncommon. This doesn't happen in real estate. However the ROI on average tends to be slightly higher with stocks, although there are little if any tax benefits. In both cases it depends on the current market. In some places real estate investing is not a wise investment, while in others it is a very good investment. Real Estate has always been a much safer investment and will always be. Make no mistake however, if you know what you're doing in the stock market you can make likely make more money than in real estate, and it requires significantly less work after your money is invested than in real estate. Not to mention real estate is something that takes time to reap the benefits from moreso than stocks. A good thing about real estate however is that when you buy a home you can profit before even selling it by renting out to tenants. Usually you aren't able to rent it out to somebody for higher than your mortgage payments, but you at least get to take a much smaller hit. The biggest disadvantage to that however is you can't sell the home whenever you please if somebody is on a lease, but it's still a wise decision to rent it out. Sort of rambled off there but basically both are good investments if you know what you're doing. Real estate is less voilatile while the stock market tends to generate better returns. [/ QUOTE ] this post is just wrong or making assumptions all over the place [/ QUOTE ] Most of what I said are basically facts, what part are you talking about? Please don't try to criticize my post if you don't know what you're talking about. At the very least you can quote what part you disagree with. Like I said I rushed that post and I misworded some things and some others aren't 100% true, but for the most part is is accurate. There are a ton of exceptions in regards to the norm, so if you're going to point some out then don't bother.
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#73
10-02-2007, 07:22 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] People who are looking to invest should know that investing in stocks has more variance than investing in real estate. Stocks can technically lose all their value, all though that is uncommon. This doesn't happen in real estate. However the ROI on average tends to be slightly higher with stocks, although there are little if any tax benefits. In both cases it depends on the current market. In some places real estate investing is not a wise investment, while in others it is a very good investment. Real Estate has always been a much safer investment and will always be. Make no mistake however, if you know what you're doing in the stock market you can make likely make more money than in real estate, and it requires significantly less work after your money is invested than in real estate. Not to mention real estate is something that takes time to reap the benefits from moreso than stocks. A good thing about real estate however is that when you buy a home you can profit before even selling it by renting out to tenants. Usually you aren't able to rent it out to somebody for higher than your mortgage payments, but you at least get to take a much smaller hit. The biggest disadvantage to that however is you can't sell the home whenever you please if somebody is on a lease, but it's still a wise decision to rent it out. Sort of rambled off there but basically both are good investments if you know what you're doing. Real estate is less voilatile while the stock market tends to generate better returns. [/ QUOTE ] this post is just wrong or making assumptions all over the place [/ QUOTE ] Most of what I said are basically facts, what part are you talking about? Please don't try to criticize my post if you don't know what you're talking about. At the very least you can quote what part you disagree with. Like I said I rushed that post and I misworded some things and some others aren't 100% true, but for the most part is is accurate. There are a ton of exceptions in regards to the norm, so if you're going to point some out then don't bother. [/ QUOTE ] from your post it sounds like you invest in neither very much, and just read a newspaper article about stocks vs. real estate and told everyone what you heard in the article. it's great learning from people who know a certain field, but when people come to threads and start throwing around assumptions that are completely wrong and they don't even know what they are saying it doesn't help people coming to a thread like this trying to learn.
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#74
10-02-2007, 07:24 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This doesn't happen in real estate. However the ROI on average tends to be slightly higher with stocks [/ QUOTE ] no [ QUOTE ] Make no mistake however, if you know what you're doing in the stock market you can make likely make more money than in real estate [/ QUOTE ] no in other news 3 of my friends who play poker, 2 of them play sit and goes and make money, 1 of them plays cash games, and he loses money, so i figured out that sit and goes are more profitable than cash games. [/ QUOTE ] I shouldn't have used the term ROI as you're right that is not nessicarily true. However, stocks have outperformed real estate for much of the past 30 years, to the tune of about 4% in annual returns. The thing about real estate is that everything is at a fixed rate and it's very rare to make a big score with all things considered. In the stock market you can make more (or lose more) by simply making a bigger investment. I rushed that post a little bit and misworded what I was trying to say. You can make a lot in both by simply knowing what you're doing, and in real estate if you know what you're doing you can make a lot of money without much risk. In the stock market it doesn't matter how good you are or even how good the company is run, you can lose a lot of money quickly. That goes back to stocks being much more violatile than real estate. With that said, there is tons of money in the stock market to be made if you have the money to invest. This is true in real estate but much moreso in stocks. [/ QUOTE ] no again. you are just throwing things out there without having a clue what you are talking about. [/ QUOTE ] God you are the most worthless and egotistical poster ever.
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#75
10-02-2007, 07:25 PM
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After my session I will go voer ur post A5 if u want
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#77
10-02-2007, 07:30 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] People who are looking to invest should know that investing in stocks has more variance than investing in real estate. Stocks can technically lose all their value, all though that is uncommon. This doesn't happen in real estate. However the ROI on average tends to be slightly higher with stocks, although there are little if any tax benefits. In both cases it depends on the current market. In some places real estate investing is not a wise investment, while in others it is a very good investment. Real Estate has always been a much safer investment and will always be. Make no mistake however, if you know what you're doing in the stock market you can make likely make more money than in real estate, and it requires significantly less work after your money is invested than in real estate. Not to mention real estate is something that takes time to reap the benefits from moreso than stocks. A good thing about real estate however is that when you buy a home you can profit before even selling it by renting out to tenants. Usually you aren't able to rent it out to somebody for higher than your mortgage payments, but you at least get to take a much smaller hit. The biggest disadvantage to that however is you can't sell the home whenever you please if somebody is on a lease, but it's still a wise decision to rent it out. Sort of rambled off there but basically both are good investments if you know what you're doing. Real estate is less voilatile while the stock market tends to generate better returns. [/ QUOTE ] this post is just wrong or making assumptions all over the place [/ QUOTE ] Most of what I said are basically facts, what part are you talking about? Please don't try to criticize my post if you don't know what you're talking about. At the very least you can quote what part you disagree with. Like I said I rushed that post and I misworded some things and some others aren't 100% true, but for the most part is is accurate. There are a ton of exceptions in regards to the norm, so if you're going to point some out then don't bother. [/ QUOTE ] from your post it sounds like you invest in neither very much, and just read a newspaper article about stocks vs. real estate and told everyone what you heard in the article. it's great learning from people who know a certain field, but when people come to threads and start throwing around assumptions that are completely wrong and they don't even know what they are saying it doesn't help people coming to a thread like this trying to learn. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not claiming to be an expert on investing, and most of what I do know is from reading books and articles. If you think I'm wrong that's one thing, but why don't you tell me what I wrote that is incorrect? This is a thread with people trying to learn as you alluded to, and if you know so much about investing because you once bought a piece of property somewhere and a friend of yours makes a lot money through stocks or whatever then why don't you share your knowledge instead of just telling other people that they don't what they're talking about. It's the equivalent of in a strategy thread somebody says something you disagree with, and instead of you telling them why they're wrong and explaining it in a productive manner, you just tell them what they think is wrong and that's it. How the hell is that helpful?
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#78
10-02-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: 10k post
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] People who are looking to invest should know that investing in stocks has more variance than investing in real estate. Stocks can technically lose all their value, all though that is uncommon. This doesn't happen in real estate. However the ROI on average tends to be slightly higher with stocks, although there are little if any tax benefits. In both cases it depends on the current market. In some places real estate investing is not a wise investment, while in others it is a very good investment. Real Estate has always been a much safer investment and will always be. Make no mistake however, if you know what you're doing in the stock market you can make likely make more money than in real estate, and it requires significantly less work after your money is invested than in real estate. Not to mention real estate is something that takes time to reap the benefits from moreso than stocks. A good thing about real estate however is that when you buy a home you can profit before even selling it by renting out to tenants. Usually you aren't able to rent it out to somebody for higher than your mortgage payments, but you at least get to take a much smaller hit. The biggest disadvantage to that however is you can't sell the home whenever you please if somebody is on a lease, but it's still a wise decision to rent it out. Sort of rambled off there but basically both are good investments if you know what you're doing. Real estate is less voilatile while the stock market tends to generate better returns. [/ QUOTE ] this post is just wrong or making assumptions all over the place [/ QUOTE ] Most of what I said are basically facts, what part are you talking about? Please don't try to criticize my post if you don't know what you're talking about. At the very least you can quote what part you disagree with. Like I said I rushed that post and I misworded some things and some others aren't 100% true, but for the most part is is accurate. There are a ton of exceptions in regards to the norm, so if you're going to point some out then don't bother. [/ QUOTE ] from your post it sounds like you invest in neither very much, and just read a newspaper article about stocks vs. real estate and told everyone what you heard in the article. it's great learning from people who know a certain field, but when people come to threads and start throwing around assumptions that are completely wrong and they don't even know what they are saying it doesn't help people coming to a thread like this trying to learn. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not claiming to be an expert on investing, and most of what I do know is from reading books and articles. If you think I'm wrong that's one thing, but why don't you tell me what I wrote that is incorrect? This is a thread with people trying to learn as you alluded to, and if you know so much about investing because you once bought a piece of property somewhere and a friend of yours makes a lot money through stocks or whatever then why don't you share your knowledge instead of just telling other people that they don't what they're talking about. It's the equivalent of in a strategy thread somebody says something you disagree with, and instead of you telling them why they're wrong and explaining it in a productive manner, you just tell them what they think is wrong and that's it. How the hell is that helpful? [/ QUOTE ] i think matthew's going to help you go over it.
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#79
10-02-2007, 08:47 PM
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Putting investing in stocks or real estate in ROI terms isn't really useful for what Ahnuld is getting at here, IMO. Which one is better for you depends on a lot of factors, including who you know in both worlds, where you live, how much money you have to invest, etc. There's not a "clear" answer to which is the superior way to go.
EDIT: FWIW, for some people, simply putting their money in a CD might be the best route. No, it doesn't have the upside of stocks or real estate, but it's a guaranteed, risk-free profit of around 4-4.5% per year on your money (sometimes more). If you don't know much about stocks or real estate and just want somewhere safe for your $, those are good options.
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#80
10-02-2007, 08:54 PM
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Putting investing in stocks or real estate in ROI terms isn't really useful for what Ahnuld is getting at here, IMO. Which one is better for you depends on a lot of factors, including who you know in both worlds, where you live, how much money you have to invest, etc. There's not a "clear" answer to which is the superior way to go. [/ QUOTE ] well said
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