I'm going to get flamed: Day Job vs. Poker...

[paulcouto]

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well, if u can help me improve my game, i'm all ears. private message me any time.

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Dude you have ONE POST in the strategy forums. Since 2004. Why do you think all those guys making tons of money have like 3k posts? They weren't all in BBV.

Success doesn't fall out of the sky. You have to earn it.

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ok, next time before i go all in, i'll ask the villan how many posts he has on 2+2. so, is it like dungeons and dragons? the more posts.......the more health points u have?

thanks for the info.

[paulcouto]

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It shouldn't amaze me how little "pros" understand about being a pro, or how easily people are deluded by small sample sizes into thinking they can be a pro. Or by large sample sizes, for that matter. If millions of people have taken up poker in the past years, thousands have had luck in the top 1 percentile, and it's impossible to convince them they've just been lucky for years.

There is, essentially, no point in thinking in terms of running bad or running good. There's only play.

I've had no job except poker since 1987, and have never gone broke. I've stepped down a few times. And stepping down is a rite of passage for a pro. In fact, you aren't even a real pro, to me, until you've done that and bounced back up. Because if you can't, emotionally, handle stepping down, then you're just a goof who gambles for fun, and if you can't step down and rebuild and bounce back, then you don't have the skills. Also, at least half of what you'll ever learn about the game will come while "running bad."

Almost everyone who fails at playing poker for a living fails because they aren't good enough. Almost every single one of them. Yet, almost every single one of them gives something else as an excuse for failure. Outside expenses; pit games; burnout. The latter is the real BS. Burnout in this business = tired of playing and not winning.

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bad streaks dont exist, only bad play, yet someone can be lucky for years............ok

[Jamougha]

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well, if u can help me improve my game, i'm all ears. private message me any time.

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Dude you have ONE POST in the strategy forums. Since 2004. Why do you think all those guys making tons of money have like 3k posts? They weren't all in BBV.

Success doesn't fall out of the sky. You have to earn it.

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ok, next time before i go all in, i'll ask the villan how many posts he has on 2+2. so, is it like dungeons and dragons? the more posts.......the more health points u have?

thanks for the info.

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You could have used the strategy forums to get better by participating. You chose not too. Now you whine about how hard poker is while also whining that the people who put a ton of effort into improving their game are just running hot or lying. Grow the [censored] up.

Also you appear not to understand basic logic.

[paulcouto]

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well, if u can help me improve my game, i'm all ears. private message me any time.

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Dude you have ONE POST in the strategy forums. Since 2004. Why do you think all those guys making tons of money have like 3k posts? They weren't all in BBV.

Success doesn't fall out of the sky. You have to earn it.

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ok, next time before i go all in, i'll ask the villan how many posts he has on 2+2. so, is it like dungeons and dragons? the more posts.......the more health points u have?

thanks for the info.

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You could have used the strategy forums to get better by participating. You chose not too. Now you whine about how hard poker is while also whining that the people who put a ton of effort into improving their game are just running hot or lying. Grow the [censored] up.

Also you appear not to understand basic logic.

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didnt someone say on another thread for you to stop posting? i can see your well liked. i wonder why?

[MrMore]

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It shouldn't amaze me how little "pros" understand about being a pro, or how easily people are deluded by small sample sizes into thinking they can be a pro. Or by large sample sizes, for that matter. If millions of people have taken up poker in the past years, thousands have had luck in the top 1 percentile, and it's impossible to convince them they've just been lucky for years.

There is, essentially, no point in thinking in terms of running bad or running good. There's only play.

I've had no job except poker since 1987, and have never gone broke. I've stepped down a few times. And stepping down is a rite of passage for a pro. In fact, you aren't even a real pro, to me, until you've done that and bounced back up. Because if you can't, emotionally, handle stepping down, then you're just a goof who gambles for fun, and if you can't step down and rebuild and bounce back, then you don't have the skills. Also, at least half of what you'll ever learn about the game will come while "running bad."

Almost everyone who fails at playing poker for a living fails because they aren't good enough. Almost every single one of them. Yet, almost every single one of them gives something else as an excuse for failure. Outside expenses; pit games; burnout. The latter is the real BS. Burnout in this business = tired of playing and not winning.

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bad streaks dont exist, only bad play, yet someone can be lucky for years............ok

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Try to understand this: it doesn't matter if you're running bad or good, only how well you're playing. That's not the same thing as saying bad or good runs don't exist.

[Jamougha]

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well, if u can help me improve my game, i'm all ears. private message me any time.

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Dude you have ONE POST in the strategy forums. Since 2004. Why do you think all those guys making tons of money have like 3k posts? They weren't all in BBV.

Success doesn't fall out of the sky. You have to earn it.

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ok, next time before i go all in, i'll ask the villan how many posts he has on 2+2. so, is it like dungeons and dragons? the more posts.......the more health points u have?

thanks for the info.

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You could have used the strategy forums to get better by participating. You chose not too. Now you whine about how hard poker is while also whining that the people who put a ton of effort into improving their game are just running hot or lying. Grow the [censored] up.

Also you appear not to understand basic logic.

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didnt someone say on another thread for you to stop posting? i can see your well liked. i wonder why?

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No they didn't lol. I have hardly ever posted more than a single one liner in an NVG thread.

Still I guess this pathetic ad hominem means you are aware I'm right at some level.

[paulcouto]

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well, if u can help me improve my game, i'm all ears. private message me any time.

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Dude you have ONE POST in the strategy forums. Since 2004. Why do you think all those guys making tons of money have like 3k posts? They weren't all in BBV.

Success doesn't fall out of the sky. You have to earn it.

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ok, next time before i go all in, i'll ask the villan how many posts he has on 2+2. so, is it like dungeons and dragons? the more posts.......the more health points u have?

thanks for the info.

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You could have used the strategy forums to get better by participating. You chose not too. Now you whine about how hard poker is while also whining that the people who put a ton of effort into improving their game are just running hot or lying. Grow the [censored] up.

Also you appear not to understand basic logic.

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didnt someone say on another thread for you to stop posting? i can see your well liked. i wonder why?

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No they didn't lol. I have hardly ever posted more than a single one liner in an NVG thread.

Still I guess this pathetic ad hominem means you are aware I'm right at some level.

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of course youre right. havent seen anyone on 2+2 that doesnt know "everything". plus, u have your own blog so you must know what your talking about.

its obvious that you and alot of 2+2ers are serious about poker. anyone that has over 7k comments and theyre own blog doesnt do anything else. you deserve to be a winner in the game. good luck.

[john kane]

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Uhhh.. the greatest value to playing poker versus a job is the FREEDOM... obv. Go where you want, play when you want, take vacations whenever, etc.

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i wouldn't call knowing that going down the pub for a night out is going to cost you $1K in lost earnings freedom exactly.....

but yeah, i know where your coming from, poker does allow you to be very independent and be able to do whatever you want, and i think it is the best hobby i could of ever had.

[g33z3r]

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anyone with a link to the Dynasty thread?
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ge=0#Post675552

excellent read!

[flipdeadshot22]

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I enjoy poker and have fantasized from time to time about playing for a living. But, it's one dream that shouldn't come true. First, I make a very good living in the tech industry (nearly 100k/year) and to make that much at poker would require a ton of hours. Plus, it'd get mind numbingly dull. Poker is fun...as a hobby. My day job is definiately more interesting overall and has a career path which means I have room to shift what I'm doing a little as I progress.

I'd play poker for a living if:
a) I could "work" about 20 hours a week.
b) Make 125-130k in that 20 hours.

Otherwise, the burnout and variance might, quite literally, kill me (ulcers, stress, etc). If I had to crank out 40+ hours a week of poker knowning my family and mortgage rested on my success, I'd turn into a basket case.

Oh, and to someone that asked, yes, I'd miss the day-to-day consistency of a normal job. Coworkers to talk to, days I can just totally slack and get paid, etc.

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4 tables of 400NL for 20 hours a week = ~100K a year

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lol, okay