Several Hotshots Supposedly Broke Or In Debt

[Daliman]

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Brad Booth in debt over a Million. Guy is major busto

Daniel N is also busto, not life busto, just cash busto. He had money invested well so not hurting in the game of life, but his poker bankroll is gone.

Jennifer Harman same thing. But she has many properties in town and has a fortune in real estate.

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Guy Laliberte is busto? Better make a new Cirque. MAybe he can work with you and Patrik on a tennis-themed one?

[Daliman]

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Given "what stories" of how Booth throws money away?

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At the very least, it seems fairly common knowledge that BB is known to often open all-in blind for like 50k in a mid-limit NL game(5-10 or so). He also loves to make the "superstar" plays like the one seen on HSP vs Ivey. Online, guys like cts and Jman smoke him, often in pots where BB has RR'd or RRR'd allin on the flop drawing to less than 5% of the pot.

[J_V]

This should serve as notice to poker players, that if you have ambitions to get very very rich, don't plan on playing poker too long. Get a head start when you are young and then go do something more lucrative.

[AntonHeat]

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Given "what stories" of how Booth throws money away?

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At the very least, it seems fairly common knowledge that BB is known to often open all-in blind for like 50k in a mid-limit NL game(5-10 or so). He also loves to make the "superstar" plays like the one seen on HSP vs Ivey. Online, guys like cts and Jman smoke him, often in pots where BB has RR'd or RRR'd allin on the flop drawing to less than 5% of the pot.

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makes sense, I 've heard about him donating in the lesser NL games just allin preflop..

[tpir]

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nininchal, i think the reason youd rather be a 1/2 grinder instead of a named player on the verge of bustoing is because you have a life away from poker. i would make the contention that most famous players dont have a life away from poker. poker is their life. this kind of trait is one of the dominating reasons why people succeed in their ambitions, and its also one of the dominating reasons why poker players often end up broke. they make their ambitions their life. when being the best at poker is your aspiration, it can become quite easy to move up before youre ready to, because you want to get there so bad. its why people play underrolled and its why people refuse to move down. they want to progress, and to them, thats almost more important than the money. afterall, the word security to these players doesnt hold the weight that it may to you. they may have never had a job and plan to never have one in the future. they dont know what its like to not be able to pay their bills. paying their bills has never been an issue because they make so much more than their monthly nut. because of this, their objective in poker isnt to make ends meet, its to climb new heights.

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vn post. tstone ftw.

[betgo]

This is a good post and it is stated in an abstract way, just as Sklansky's technical poker advice is.

Obviously someone like Sklansky can't name names, and names are not the point anyway.

The way you get to be considered a top player is often to play in the "big game" or other very high stakes games, or even more so now, to play in a lot of major tournaments, so sometimes you make the final table and appear on TV.

There are certain players who have a reputation for beating high stakes games, and there are some who are obviously beating major tournaments. Some of the others who are well known may be good but not great players who are losing of break even at the stakes they are playing. Playing high can make you well known, but also broke.

Sklanksy is apparently a regular at 300/600 limit holdem and other games about that level. I am sure he beats them reasonably consistantly. Despite his ego, he knows to play games he can clearly beat.

I think there are a lot of players who are cautious about what they play, but beat what they play. That is how I do it, and I think it is a safe approach if you are going to gamble for a living.

[AceCR9]

can we gett Tstone his own forum or something?

awesome posts

[Nick Rainey]

One of the main reasons guys like Booth, Benyamine, Negreanue, Matusow, etc made it to the highest levels of Poker is that they have a lot of gambool.

How well they control their gambool and bankroll is another story, but unless you have some major gambool in your blood your probably never going to be sitting in the big game.

Ivey for sure is no where near busto.

[crancspanc]

IMO the poker world has turned into the WWF (WWE). It is a microcosm of what the media can do to anything that becomes the “latest” thing (i.e. wwf). Right now it seems there are many “pros” vying to be the next Parris Hilton of the poker world. It is no surprise that a large majority of the “pros” are busto. I think fame has seduced them and they have lost sight of the fact that in the end they are in this to MAKE MONEY, today I think they are often in it to have the most TV time (which in 10 years won’t get them a burger). Ha Ha Ha, look at me lose $10K betting on nothing, look at me spending $25K a month on nothing, LOOK AT ME, PLEASE JUST LOOK AT ME. Mostly I just see them bleed off their money. I personally can’t imagine Doyle B or Barry G betting who can eat more Fajitas in a sitting.

I started playing in casinos and reading books about 15 years ago. Poker pros were mostly grumpy old guys who lingered around the casinos looking to take pots off of unsuspecting newbies (TJ and Sam G types come to mind). The rise of the ESPN poker superstar has thrown a new breed into the limelight (Phil L and Tony G come to mind). Jumping around the table, antics, yelling and screaming are now commonplace.

In a couple years it will be tragic to see the bodies strewn around the poker community. You think there won’t be regret? You think the idea that millions were pissed away won’t be haunting some of these guys?

If you read between the lines of the original post it is a bit of a cautionary tale. Be careful of what you are trying to be, these players may not be everything that you think they are.

In the end that is why I have quite a bit of respect for many of the “pro” posters here (i.e. TStoneMDB). Getting better at poker seems to be their main goal, so they can drag more pots, so they can make more money as opposed to coming up with a new shtick to get them more “air time”.

Just my 2 cents but what the [censored] do I know.

[Go_Blue88]

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Brad Booth in debt over a Million. Guy is major busto

Daniel N is also busto, not life busto, just cash busto. He had money invested well so not hurting in the game of life, but his poker bankroll is gone.

Jennifer Harman same thing. But she has many properties in town and has a fortune in real estate.

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Uhh what...you think the creator of Cirque De Soleil (Guy) is "major busto?" He's prolly worth close to a billion if not more...