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Old 05-02-2007, 11:38 PM
Borodog Borodog is offline
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My main choice would be war on drugs, but I am going to try something a little different.

I hate the spirit of the government. More specifically the feeling that people have when they talk about the national government. People trust them with their hearts and minds. The common man puts so much faith into an organization that has done little to deserve this adulation. By monopolizing so many things they have made our society un-aware of other options that may be present to them without the government. I don't know if I am articulating myself as well as I need to, but I am sure the ACers understand. I encounter people who give so much trust in things like national IDs, or homeland security. It hurts me to watch all this faith go into something that will only fail them time and time again. This faith is the heart of the problem.

I don't know if that's in the spirit of the question, but I have had a couple of beers and I don't give an eff.

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I for one like your post.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:46 PM
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The content regarding SS in the "summary" is wrong, period. Consolidating SS and Medicare future liabilities in current deficits is bad accounting, period. GAAP accouting is not approrpiate for Government entities, period.

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Why is GAAP accounting not appropriate for Government entities? Why should accounting standards be any more lax for them? To hide the impending disaster? Those obligations DO exist, trying to hide them is just ludicrous.

At least one of these things has to happen:
1. Spending must be cut DRASTICALLY
2. Taxes must be raised DRASTICALLY
3. Social security obligations can be cancelled
4. We could significantly expand money supply and inflate the problem away
5. We default on our debt

When a politician tries to get elected saying any of these, what d'you think his chances are? Zero?

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It is not a matter of government accouting being "lax" compared to GAAP accounting, the principles are different. The purpose of GAAP accounting reflecting future liabilities is to match cost of production with revenues and profits. The government doesnt "produce" or have profits for that kind of matching. SS has never been and was never intended to match current benefit accruals with current taxes. To force an inter-generational transfer system into GAAP accounting is a non-sequiter.

And you are incorrect that taxes have to be raised drastically or benefits cut drastically. Another extension of normal retirement age similar to the last one or a small increase in SS revenues would extend the period to the first deficit beyond our childrens lifetimes.

One solid step that isnt reflected in the numbers yet was the PPA provision to allow employees to receive corporate pensions while still employed after age 62. That in and of itself should extend the SS projections 10-15 years.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Biggest problem you have with your govnernment?

That it serves to the will of corporations and moneyed interests over that of it's citizens.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:54 PM
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:56 PM
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Your faux outrage is very impressive.



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Go faux yourself. I wish you were here and Id show you how faux it isn't.

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See, if I were mod, you wouldn't ever have to be embarrased by your broken quotes ever again.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:58 PM
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Your faux outrage is very impressive.



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Go faux yourself. I wish you were here and Id show you how faux it isn't.

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See, if I were mod, you wouldn't ever have to be embarrased by your broken quotes ever again.

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another indication that youre life is too entwined in this forum. If Im ever embarassed about something so asinine, I'll take you off ignore. buh bye
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:00 AM
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Your faux outrage is very impressive.



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Go faux yourself. I wish you were here and Id show you how faux it isn't.

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See, if I were mod, you wouldn't ever have to be embarrased by your broken quotes ever again.

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another indication that youre life is too entwined in this forum. If Im ever embarassed about something so asinine, I'll take you off ignore. buh bye

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Thanks! Have a nice life.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:33 AM
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I recommend you use the "Notify Moderator" button. That's why they put it there.

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I responded the way I wanted to respond.

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If I were mod I would fix your quotes, like this.

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If I were mod youd be banned for life for that post, and it has nothing to do with "opinion", it has to do with the fact that you are on sick person.

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Yer kidding, right? Of course, I think Boro is being a little ridiculous and probably letting his emotions color his judgment a little bit (and watching your wife cry will do that to people) but you think he should be banned for life for giving an opinion? Its not like he is condoning indiscriminate murder, he's identified an enemy and approves of the use of violent force to eliminate his enemy. I personally disagree with that about as strongly as you can, but its ludicrous to suggest he should be banned for it. I'd much rather attack his premises.

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A faceless bunch of drones doing their job should be shot because they didnt withhold enough or his wife is emotionally unstable? that is NOT an opinion. And to raise VT in the same context magnifies it. Not only should he be banned for life, he should seek professional help, quickly.

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This is just shrieking. Seek professional help? What a ridiculous bit of hyperbole. You don't really think that, do you? Like you think he should be evaluated as a danger to himself or others, or that he could use an hour a week on a leather couch?

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vhawk,

I would advise you to peruse a sampling of Copernicus's previous posts for context. You are new to the denizens of Politics, after all. I think you'll have a much clearer understanding.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Advice well-taken and -considered, but it probably wouldn't do much good. I am nearly incapable of ignoring the bait.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:13 AM
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Waste and Incompetence! 17 million people work for the government in some capacity or another and the majority of them could screw up a one car funeral.
If their employment was based on merit, we would see a dramatic improvement overnight.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:51 AM
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My main choice would be war on drugs, but I am going to try something a little different.

I hate the spirit of the government. More specifically the feeling that people have when they talk about the national government. People trust them with their hearts and minds. The common man puts so much faith into an organization that has done little to deserve this adulation. By monopolizing so many things they have made our society un-aware of other options that may be present to them without the government. I don't know if I am articulating myself as well as I need to, but I am sure the ACers understand. I encounter people who give so much trust in things like national IDs, or homeland security. It hurts me to watch all this faith go into something that will only fail them time and time again. This faith is the heart of the problem.

I don't know if that's in the spirit of the question, but I have had a couple of beers and I don't give an eff.

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I for one like your post.

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Thanks, maybe I should post drunk more often.
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