200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed

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Anyone else surprised that Aba played this hand so tricky?

I think he normally loses a ton of value playing his hand this way....

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When I first heard of the hand I thought it was a bad call by you, but I think it's pretty close, given your hand is mostly transparent.

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please stop posting results you N-posts retards

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[AcidKnight]

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i think this is a pretty clear fold.
although in the heat of the moment i can understand if you called.

i think from villian's perspective you either have a big K or a big draw.

if you missed a big draw value is gone anyways as you're prolly not going to be bluff shoving the river since this is higher then you normally play and you seem to be winner in the game.

he prolly figures his best way to get value from you is to go for the overbet and hope for a hero call.

the only reason i could see him overbet bluffing is the fact that you are winner in the game and sometimes ppl who are up good try and lock it up.

i guess it boils down to whether he thinks you'll fold a AA in this spot.

all in all i think its a fold, but i've def. made worse calls in my life.

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I like this post.

I have a question. If we held AA here, does that change much or are we going to assume that Aba is not overbetting a hand for value that isn't a minimum of trip 9s?

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think it's a lot closer with AA. Order of likelihood is probably set, trips, AA/AK, but I think AA/AK is definitely in his hand range here.

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

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I don't know how you call this. He knows you have KQ or KJ almost every time. And how often is an overbet from him like that a bluff.

Really dissapointing if you called.

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if he puts us on KQ or KJ, then wouldnt that be a good reason for him to bluff? there really isnt much to comment on this hand except i am happy i dont play these stakes.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think people who are 'scared money' are often more self-conscious of the fact that other people view them as scared money and are therefore actually more likely to call big bets than to fold to them. I don't think aba would expect WL to fold to this bet with a decent K. And definitely not with AA. If you were aba, would you try to bluff against KQ here?

[Ansky]

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I think people who are 'scared money' are often more self-conscious of the fact that other people view them as scared money and are therefore actually more likely to call big bets than to fold to them. I don't think aba would expect WL to fold to this bet with a decent K. And definitely not with AA. If you were aba, would you try to bluff against KQ here?

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unless he knows that he knows that he knows!!!!! god poker is so hard!

[AcidKnight]

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I think people who are 'scared money' are often more self-conscious of the fact that other people view them as scared money and are therefore actually more likely to call big bets than to fold to them. I don't think aba would expect WL to fold to this bet with a decent K. And definitely not with AA. If you were aba, would you try to bluff against KQ here?

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Hands like this are such a big problem becuase it's totally dependant on the number of levels of thinking that the hero and villain view each other as operating at. To answer your last question, if I'm aba here and I can't beat KQ and I view whitelime as slightly scared money then yeah, I'm gonna bluff at the pot becuase I think that he's gonna have to do a lot of thinking and then still make a very tough call if he wants to get my money.

[fatgirl_lover]

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I don't know how you call this. He knows you have KQ or KJ almost every time. And how often is an overbet from him like that a bluff.

Really dissapointing if you called.

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if he puts us on KQ or KJ, then wouldnt that be a good reason for him to bluff? there really isnt much to comment on this hand except i am happy i dont play these stakes.

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no because aba can't represent any reasonable hand to be betting that big, thus hs really has it

[imfatandugly]

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Aba knows you have to fold 2/3 of the time to make a bluff here profitable. he also obviously knows you have a K. you're a thinking player who is capable of making a big call down here. i dont think he would ever think he could get you to fold more than 2/3 of the time here...

i'd lay it down

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best argument for laying it down so far.

[murph0110]

ty for posting, interesting hand...