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#71
01-23-2007, 12:34 PM
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This "I have a secret" stuff is silly. [/ QUOTE ] While it may be silly, he did come on here and give us a little information. If it is true, then great, I'm glad he did. I don't care whether he tells us where he got the info from or not. I would rather get more of the same in the future from him or anyone else. 
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#72
01-23-2007, 12:42 PM
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[ QUOTE ] This "I have a secret" stuff is silly. [/ QUOTE ] While it may be silly, he did come on here and give us a little information. If it is true, then great, I'm glad he did. I don't care whether he tells us where he got the info from or not. I would rather get more of the same in the future from him or anyone else. [/ QUOTE ] To me it indicates he doesn't actually know anything, but rather has a guess and doesn't want to reveal it because even on the anonymous Internet, the ego can easily bruise if he's wrong. Of course some might like to hear a good guess if it were presented as such, but I think anyone who really knows will either keep their mouth shut in the first place or leak the whole deal. If he does know something and won't say, it's because he thinks he'll get fired by his employer for a leak while something is under negotiation, not because of any DOJ stuff. I call poser.
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#74
01-23-2007, 12:52 PM
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Right, so this has to remain a super secret . . . until it becomes a withdrawal option and gets posted on their website . . . that way it will take an extra 3 days to get it shut down. Cmon - if they have an option that will work, it will work whether you or someone who is actually important tells anyone about it. This "I have a secret" stuff is silly. [/ QUOTE ] I have never claimed to have a "secret". I have worked in banking and securities; I play poker for a living now. I have never even intimated that I had a contact at FTP or inside information. Itssimply informed speculation - I have been very clear about that. When it comes down to it there is only one way I can see them confidently (and truthfully) able to assert that they will have a new payment processing method that the US government can't touch. Its something that I couldn't see any site doing as anything but a last recourse because of cost and complexity. Clearly we are at last recourse point now. The reason for my secrecy as I mentioned earlier is that I think the US Government could prevent this before the fact but once its in place it would be very dificult to monitor stop. As I like what I do for a living and would like to continue to do so I find its in my best interest to not reveal what I think the sites are doing. Now clearly, if FTPs "new methods" don't exist or are EPassporte and C2P that's not what I am referring to. And if they are just lying to get another week's action off us there isn't much I can do there either.
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#75
01-23-2007, 12:57 PM
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Relax, he's just screwing around, not criticizing you. If you have been on both sides of a PA prosecution then you know your continually posting in this manner on this topic can lead to at the very least an inconveneint inquiry [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. And from the very first time I sent an email before there was even the WWW, I have operated under the assumption that whatever I typed out on my computer was 100% traceable and really I should have no problem making anything (even private emails) public. I also go under the assumption that for the most part no one is really going to give a crap about what I'm typing or doing on or with my computer. And lastly, I don't do anything illegal so I really don't care or worry about such matters.
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#76
01-23-2007, 01:04 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Right, so this has to remain a super secret . . . until it becomes a withdrawal option and gets posted on their website . . . that way it will take an extra 3 days to get it shut down. Cmon - if they have an option that will work, it will work whether you or someone who is actually important tells anyone about it. This "I have a secret" stuff is silly. [/ QUOTE ] I have never claimed to have a "secret". I have worked in banking and securities; I play poker for a living now. I have never even intimated that I had a contact at FTP or inside information. Itssimply informed speculation - I have been very clear about that. When it comes down to it there is only one way I can see them confidently (and truthfully) able to assert that they will have a new payment processing method that the US government can't touch. Its something that I couldn't see any site doing as anything but a last recourse because of cost and complexity. Clearly we are at last recourse point now. The reason for my secrecy as I mentioned earlier is that I think the US Government could prevent this before the fact but once its in place it would be very dificult to monitor stop. As I like what I do for a living and would like to continue to do so I find its in my best interest to not reveal what I think the sites are doing. Now clearly, if FTPs "new methods" don't exist or are EPassporte and C2P that's not what I am referring to. And if they are just lying to get another week's action off us there isn't much I can do there either. [/ QUOTE ] So in reality you don't know anything and have just been giving false hope on the board and speculating that one of the sites or both are purchasing a bank or something such. Admitidily a good way to get attention and grandstanding. If you were involved in a Patriot Act investigation in the past then all your posts as you know can be traced and if they think you knew something by your grandstanding you would be involved in another investigation even if you had no knowledge. You are a joke.
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#77
01-23-2007, 01:07 PM
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When it comes down to it there is only one way I can see them confidently (and truthfully) able to assert that they will have a new payment processing method that the US government can't touch. [/ QUOTE ] Can't touch or won't touch? To me the government has never shown any interest in going after poker only stuff. I'm not convinced they would have made any move against a Poker-teller service. If I were running a online poker company, I would have set up something like this a long time ago and dealt clearly and openly with only poker - openly excluding sportsbetting. And would have had high level communication with US banks. I haven't followed all the arrests over the years, but I think they have (all) been associated with sportsbooks. There is plenty of poker all over the country and it is well tolerated. Sports betting on the otherhand is only legal (by federal law) in Nevada, Delaware, and Oregon. Another factor is what the banks actually decide to do. If they don't want to deal with some entity, not worth their hassle on part of the government, and they can do so without any extra work for themselves, they'll just not do it. But perhaps your guess at a new system really gets around this and can't be stopped by the feds or the banks. If it does, that would be great.
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#79
01-23-2007, 01:16 PM
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And lastly, I don't do anything illegal so I really don't care or worry about such matters. [/ QUOTE ] First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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#80
01-23-2007, 01:17 PM
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So in reality you don't know anything and have just been giving false hope on the board and speculating that one of the sites or both are purchasing a bank or something such. Admitidily a good way to get attention and grandstanding. [ QUOTE ] If there is false hope being given its by Full Tilt and not myself. People were incredulous at Full Tilt's claim to have a new processing method that would be outside of the US's scope of regulation. I stated that there is a pretty conceivable albeit expensive way to do it. Now either that's the case of Full Tilt is risking pissing off their entire costomer base for little gain. [ QUOTE ] If you were involved in a Patriot Act investigation in the past then all your posts as you know can be traced and if they think you knew something by your grandstanding you would be involved in another investigation even if you had no knowledge. [/ QUOTE ] I am under no dulusions avbout what the government can and can not trace. Are you?
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