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TheWorstPlayer · #71 01-18-2007, 03:51 PM

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twp,

congrats, your line is great when you know you're gonna hit that gin-ball on the turn.

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One of my 13 gin balls on the turn? What about when I push a blank turn? Is that an easy call with bottom set? Even if he calls, I still have 13 outs on the river... Seems like a good line to me, no matter what...

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Do you really need to ask if bottom set calls a turn push on a blank? The line is fine, the problem people have with it is that you seem to think it is revolutionary and not 5 players on Stars could have played it as well.

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Dude, it doesn't need to be 'revolutionary' to escape the grasp of all but 5 players in the Stars 3/6.

Remember, this is the typical level of play in the Stars 3/6.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $671
TWP: $840
SB: $1021.45
BB: $1247.40

Pre-flop: (4 players) TWP is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, TWP raises to $24, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($75, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, TWP bets $70, BB folds, UTG raises to $140, TWP raises all-in $816, UTG calls all-in $507.
Uncalled bets: $169 returned to TWP.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1369, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $1369)

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1369, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $1369)

Results:
Final pot: $1369
UTG showed 3s Kd

Josh. · #72 01-18-2007, 03:52 PM

play bad, run less bad

Stealthy · #73 01-18-2007, 03:59 PM

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BB or V? I have the same size bankroll as TWP but I play $1/2nl.

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Snap, might have to move up sooner than I thought.

mistermuni · #74 01-18-2007, 03:59 PM

i thought you were a 10/20 regular?

TheWorstPlayer · #75 01-18-2007, 04:01 PM

who, me? I was never a regular. I played 10/20 for a very short time and then moved way down (actually to NL100 for a time and built back up from there).

Daliman · #76 01-18-2007, 04:03 PM

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Hahaha, based on my experience with you I know you won't be impressed with my game. Check out Loki_in_Love on Party! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] In any case, I've posted many time that I'm Gogumagog on Stars. Feel free to let me know what you think. I already have a pretty honest view of my game, I believe, but I'm always happy to hear another opinion. FWIW, I think my A game is very solid - good enough to beat average 10/20 online games. I think I get bored too easily and tilt way too often, so it doesn't really matter how good my A game is since I'm usually playing my B game and all too often playing my C or F game. I'm sure I did play against you because SexyFlanders sounds familiar, but I don't play very many hands and have no recollection of your game at all.

There are very few regs who are tough in the Stars 3/6. Maybe 2-3. And I didnt say I was the best player, I said I didnt think many people would play this specific hand this well.

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I have no notes on you. I have you as a VERY TAG/VERY TAG player by my parameters. I have 183 hands played with you at 3/6 only, and you won $214, $69 of it from me. I would guess you are a bit too TAG to be extracting maximum profit from these games, but with Raszi and I both at your table the entire time, plus Kamikazeee for a bit, you may have been more TAG than normal. Looking over a few hands, the following one that you won sticks out as odd to me;

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($591)
Button ($869.15)
Hero ($703.75)
BB ($591)
UTG ($1194.45)
MP ($615)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $24, Button calls $24, 1 fold, BB raises to $88, CO calls $64, Button calls $64.

Flop: ($267) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $144, CO calls $144, Button folds.

Turn: ($555) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $359 (All-In), CO folds.

Final Pot: $914

Results in white below: 
No showdown. BB wins $914. 

If you had AA-QQ here, as your style would seem to dictate, then I don't care for the flop bet of just over half pot on such a highly textured board. Really, by my tastes, about the only hand I could see a TAG wanting to play like this is T9s, which you could have on a resteal, Just too much going on in that flop to give someone almost 3-1 for my taste.

That's all I got. GL with the rebuilding.

TheWorstPlayer · #77 01-18-2007, 04:05 PM

POKERSTARS GAME #7715844834: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/01/01 - 17:42:39 (ET)
Table 'Cline II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Morbidity ($591 in chips)
Seat 2: RaSZi ($869.15 in chips)
Seat 3: SexyFlanders ($703.75 in chips)
Seat 4: GogUMagog ($591 in chips)
Seat 5: BEMOL ($1194.45 in chips)
Seat 6: ktrieu ($615 in chips)
SexyFlanders: posts small blind $3
GogUMagog: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GogUMagog [6s 8s]
BEMOL: folds
ktrieu: folds
Morbidity: raises $18 to $24
RaSZi: calls $24
SexyFlanders: folds
GogUMagog: raises $64 to $88
Morbidity: calls $64
RaSZi: calls $64
*** FLOP *** [6d 7c 8c]
GogUMagog: bets $144
Morbidity: calls $144
RaSZi: folds
*** TURN *** [6d 7c 8c] [Js]
GogUMagog: bets $359 and is all-in
Morbidity: folds
GogUMagog collected $552 from pot
GogUMagog: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $555 | Rake $3
Board [6d 7c 8c Js]
Seat 1: Morbidity folded on the Turn
Seat 2: RaSZi (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: SexyFlanders (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: GogUMagog (big blind) collected ($552)
Seat 5: BEMOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ktrieu folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Edit: I have both Morbidity and Raszi as very tight players preflop. So I didn't think I really had to worry about draws here. I figured Morbidity for a big pair and Raszi for a small pair. I could have just pushed the flop, I guess. I don't think this hand is particularly great, but I don't think it's bad either. I'm kinda neutral on it.

JKratzer · #78 01-18-2007, 05:37 PM

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There are very few regs who are tough in the Stars 3/6. Maybe 2-3.

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names?

Daliman · #79 01-18-2007, 06:03 PM

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POKERSTARS GAME #7715844834: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/01/01 - 17:42:39 (ET)
Table 'Cline II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Morbidity ($591 in chips)
Seat 2: RaSZi ($869.15 in chips)
Seat 3: SexyFlanders ($703.75 in chips)
Seat 4: GogUMagog ($591 in chips)
Seat 5: BEMOL ($1194.45 in chips)
Seat 6: ktrieu ($615 in chips)
SexyFlanders: posts small blind $3
GogUMagog: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GogUMagog [6s 8s]
BEMOL: folds
ktrieu: folds
Morbidity: raises $18 to $24
RaSZi: calls $24
SexyFlanders: folds
GogUMagog: raises $64 to $88
Morbidity: calls $64
RaSZi: calls $64
*** FLOP *** [6d 7c 8c]
GogUMagog: bets $144
Morbidity: calls $144
RaSZi: folds
*** TURN *** [6d 7c 8c] [Js]
GogUMagog: bets $359 and is all-in
Morbidity: folds
GogUMagog collected $552 from pot
GogUMagog: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $555 | Rake $3
Board [6d 7c 8c Js]
Seat 1: Morbidity folded on the Turn
Seat 2: RaSZi (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: SexyFlanders (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: GogUMagog (big blind) collected ($552)
Seat 5: BEMOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ktrieu folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Edit: I have both Morbidity and Raszi as very tight players preflop. So I didn't think I really had to worry about draws here. I figured Morbidity for a big pair and Raszi for a small pair. I could have just pushed the flop, I guess. I don't think this hand is particularly great, but I don't think it's bad either. I'm kinda neutral on it.

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NH sir, and given your reads, I agree then with your flop play. Nice when a squeeze goes bad then good all in one hand, huh?

yvesaint · #80 01-23-2007, 04:06 AM

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Hahaha, based on my experience with you I know you won't be impressed with my game. Check out Loki_in_Love on Party! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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LOLLLLLLLL TWP U WERE LOKI_IN_LOVE ???

BAHHHHHAHAHAHA