Libertarian Socialism - I don't understand... - Page 8

Dan. · #71 01-06-2007, 09:48 PM

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Not to mention that LS under this defintion has a government.

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WAIT A SECOND!!! IT HAS A GOVERNMENT!!!???!!!! Oh yeah, it never claimed to be without one.

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You should learn more about the views you support. There are defintitely anarchists in the LS camp.

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But has anyone ever claimed it to be without a government in this discussion? Nope. How many LSists have you talked to? My guess is that those who are anarchists identify--probably falsly as ACists do--as such, and not just as "libertarian socalists." Like anarcho-communists or something like it.

ojc02 · #72 01-06-2007, 09:50 PM

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Cut off every ounce of productivity, fun and enjoyment in life so we can protect the extreme few in this society who should be naturally selected against? I'll pass.

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Who says there's no fun and enjoyment? Because I, personally, do not know how Wiis would be distributed? I've never claimed any sort of expertise on the topic.

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Karl Marx said it. "To each according to his needs."

No Wiis would ever be produced, nor, for that matter, would anything else that makes life worth living.

Dan. · #73 01-06-2007, 09:51 PM

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Cut off every ounce of productivity, fun and enjoyment in life so we can protect the extreme few in this society who should be naturally selected against? I'll pass.

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Who says there's no fun and enjoyment? Because I, personally, do not know how Wiis would be distributed? I've never claimed any sort of expertise on the topic.

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Karl Marx said it. "To each according to his needs."

No Wiis would ever be produced, nor, for that matter, would anything else that makes life worth living.

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Good thing LS =/= Marxism. I only invoked that quote as something people would be familiar with.

ojc02 · #74 01-06-2007, 09:53 PM

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Cut off every ounce of productivity, fun and enjoyment in life so we can protect the extreme few in this society who should be naturally selected against? I'll pass.

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Who says there's no fun and enjoyment? Because I, personally, do not know how Wiis would be distributed? I've never claimed any sort of expertise on the topic.

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Karl Marx said it. "To each according to his needs."

No Wiis would ever be produced, nor, for that matter, would anything else that makes life worth living.

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Good thing LS =/= Marxism. I only invoked that quote as something people would be familiar with.

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But as we discussed earlier with the case of the village of LSists. They would produce only their base needs because there's no incentive to produce more than that.

ShakeZula06 · #75 01-06-2007, 09:59 PM

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How many LSists have you talked to?

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Quite a few here
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My guess is that those who are anarchists identify--probably falsly as ACists do--as such, and not just as "libertarian socalists." Like anarcho-communists or something like it.

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Anarcho-communism is a type of libertarian socialism.

Dan. · #76 01-06-2007, 10:03 PM

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How many LSists have you talked to?

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Quite a few here
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My guess is that those who are anarchists identify--probably falsly as ACists do--as such, and not just as "libertarian socalists." Like anarcho-communists or something like it.

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Interesting about RevLeft...I'll have to look at that. But funny you should say: [ QUOTE ]

Anarcho-communism is a type of libertarian socialism.

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From wikipedia:
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The terms anarchist communism and libertarian communism should not be considered synonyms for libertarian socialism.

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ojc02 · #77 01-06-2007, 10:05 PM

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I'm one of those poor confused souls who haven't yet figured out how AC provides a criminal justice system equivalent.

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It doesn't. It provides a mockery of justice paid for by the highest bidder. The status quo isn't perfect either, so try to not attack me by pointing out flaws in the current system.

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Sorry, missed this post.

I'm not doing that. I'm attacking LS which you appear to be defending.

Dan. · #78 01-06-2007, 10:07 PM

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I'm not doing that. I'm attacking LS which you appear to be defending.

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That's fine. My warning was a preemptive warning in case this thread got hijacked in the direction of criminal justice.

ShakeZula06 · #79 01-06-2007, 10:10 PM

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Anarcho-communism is a type of libertarian socialism.

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From wikipedia:
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The terms anarchist communism and libertarian communism should not be considered synonyms for libertarian socialism.

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Dobermans are a type of dog. Dobermans should not be considered a synonym for dogs.

From wikipedia, like a whole one sentence before your quote:
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A well-known libertarian socialist political philosophy is anarchism, with anarchist communism and anarcho-syndicalism the most active sectors.

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ShakeZula06 · #80 01-06-2007, 10:13 PM

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I'm not doing that. I'm attacking LS which you appear to be defending.

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That's fine. My warning was a preemptive warning in case this thread got hijacked in the direction of criminal justice.

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You know the best way to avoid hijacks? Not making assertions about a topic that isn't related to the current discussion.