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Old 12-12-2006, 03:12 AM
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Has no one mentioned kickoff return specialist? With that speed and decent blockers, you could probably make it to the ~30 on every kickoff.

Field position would be worth your salary.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:22 AM
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You would be drafted on this alone. You would need more than just this amount of speed however to succeed. A lot of NFL defenses run what is known as the Tampa Two. If you don't have the strength and balance to support the initial "jam" you will get nowhere. Strong cornerbacks are going to hit your right as you move off of the line. They are going to bump you off your initial planned route. With "just this speed" you would likely get knocked to the ground every play.

Safeties are already going to be about 15 yards deep so you can't be expected to just "burn by them." Just being able to "run a fly route" isn't going to cut it if someone is already fifteen yards off the ball. Keep in mind the quarterback doesn't have all day either.

The short game is going to be hard as well as the short zones are going to be covered by nickelbacks or outisde linebackers.

Teams would most likely use you as a returner because you could just run straight and have the field position factor alone. However, if I'm blazing fast, but don't have the skills to get started (i.e. beat the bump/have the route knowledge to negate a 15 yard advantage by a safety) I wouldn't be that successful.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:30 AM
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Has no one mentioned kickoff return specialist? With that speed and decent blockers, you could probably make it to the ~30 on every kickoff.

Field position would be worth your salary.

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how many times could take getting hit running at 30mph?
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:35 AM
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Extrapolating, you would run 100 meters in ~9.1 seconds, with the current wr being 9.77 seconds. According to forbes, Tiger Woods made $80.3 mil in 2004, $70 mil being endorsements. Those $7 mil a year would be peanuts.

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This much is true. I would guess that as an NFL star you would make a ton more off endorsements than you would as a track star. Remember ~10 years ago when Michael Johnson and his golden shoes were owning the Olympics? The only thing I remember seeing him on was Wheaties boxes and in McDonalds commercials. Tiger is the face of Nike Golf, has been on the Wheaties box, and has done all sorts of other promos.

Peyton Manning has Direct Tv commercials and Sprint Commercials among other things. Just today I saw Michael Strahan on a Subway commercial and he's been doing Reebok and Right Guard commercials as well. I'm reasonably sure that NFL related endorsements are more profitable than track related ones.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:43 AM
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If you don't have the strength and balance to support the initial "jam" you will get nowhere. Strong cornerbacks are going to hit your right as you move off of the line. They are going to bump you off your initial planned route. With "just this speed" you would likely get knocked to the ground every play.

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It doesn't take that much to get off the bump and the bump will ensure that if you aren't out of bounds or on the ground that you absolutely burn the corner.

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Safeties are already going to be about 15 yards deep so you can't be expected to just "burn by them." Just being able to "run a fly route" isn't going to cut it if someone is already fifteen yards off the ball. Keep in mind the quarterback doesn't have all day either.

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This will open up the run game big time. This means that the safety can never bite on the run/playaction or else it's a touchdown assuming a good throw and the receiver getting off the line. With the safety constantly having to worry about the fly route from the fastest man alive the run game opens up as do screen plays to that side, swing passes, tosses, and the tight end or slot receiver now has a ton of medium routes he can run with only single coverage.

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Teams would most likely use you as a returner because you could just run straight and have the field position factor alone.

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Breaking tackles and agility are more important for a returner than pure speed.

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However, if I'm blazing fast, but don't have the skills to get started (i.e. beat the bump/have the route knowledge to negate a 15 yard advantage by a safety) I wouldn't be that successful.

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There are lots of ways to scheme to get around this. They can snap the ball while this receiver is in motion or they can put him in the backfield as well.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:44 AM
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You would be more profitable in track and field than in the NFL because based on just these circumstances I don't think you would be really successful in the NFL. You wouldn't make all those endorsements unless you were successful. That being said, I think Peyton Manning makes a bunch more than a track star does year to year. Pro football is the most successful sport currently in America. We are a football nation right now.


However, the question wasn't about track and field.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:49 AM
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You would be more profitable in track and field than in the NFL because based on just these circumstances I don't think you would be really successful in the NFL. You wouldn't make all those endorsements unless you were successful.

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I disagree.

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However, the question wasn't about track and field.

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However it's an interesting side now. Why would said athlete choose the NFL over track and field if he could make a comparable amount of money without the risk of injury.
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:02 AM
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Also, when you are beating the hell out of corners you will get a lot of pass interference calls going your away. You could make it in the NFL easily.
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:03 AM
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What do you disagree about? Many blazers don't have a lot of endorsements in the NFL if they aren't that good. I think if you aren't a good NFL wideout, but everyone knows your really fast no one would care to give you tons of endorsements. Or are you disagreeing about the success level?

It is an interesting side, but I think David was talking more about what it would take to be a successful wideout. Not so much, if you were really fast how would you make the most money (T and F is obvious)
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:10 AM
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Yeah I'm disagreeing about the level of success that could be had by such an athlete.

That speed advantage is huge and for the first few games he is likely to get single coverage until defenses adjust specifically to him. My guess is if you can figure out a way to get off the bump and run you could put up record breaking numbers. I for one don't think it would be very hard to beat bump and run since an athlete of this calibur will have natural balance and with a little experience with the bump and a little scheme he should be open all day. If he is agile enough to change directions quickly with the balance and strength to beat bump and run he'd be undoubtably the greatest wide receiver of all time. Plenty of teams won't play bump and run against him though because they lack the size to do it at the DBs.
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