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Old 08-30-2007, 05:20 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

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Maybe if you could look at it from my perspective you would see why I was offended.

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Clearly, I just think your perspective is wrong, although I was surely more rude than I could have been.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

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Maybe it's just me but when I last played leather he was for sure opening 45s+ here

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Yup I have similar preflop numbers to him and raise SCs here down to 45s, and also 46ss, 57ss, 68ss usually too.

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I think this is pretty obvious to OP.

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highest flush possible for him is 8s7s

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Old 08-30-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

Yah, I edited before you posted :P
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:22 PM
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I would consider flat calling tbh, muse a bit, and then push like most others but really don't think calling is so awful as to be laughed at.

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Calling isn't awful, it's just not as good IMO. The argument I was laughing at was that somehow just because all we could have was a bluff was somehow an argument that leatherass would never call worse, let alone that we might have a lower flush.

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I'd like to know what is the top of your flatting range here.

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So flow dependent. QJ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is probably the cutoff hand given board texture. If I had Q8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I would shove that though.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:24 PM
Jamie217 Jamie217 is offline
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

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Maybe it's just me but when I last played leather he was for sure opening 45s+ here

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Yup I have similar preflop numbers to him and raise SCs here down to 45s, and also 46ss, 57ss, 68ss usually too.

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I think this is pretty obvious to OP.

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highest flush possible for him is 8s7s

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Yes Im saying the highest flush in his range is 8hi... obv he can have lower flushes as well. However Im not sure that he bets the flop w/ them or that he isolates w/ them. But I am not going to say they are extremely unlikely
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

fwiw I've barely read op and mostly laughed at whoever said xorbie cant even beat 400nl and whatever else he said
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:26 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

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Yes Im saying the highest flush in his range is 8hi... obv he can have lower flushes as well.

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huh?
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

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Maybe it's just me but when I last played leather he was for sure opening 45s+ here

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Yup I have similar preflop numbers to him and raise SCs here down to 45s, and also 46ss, 57ss, 68ss usually too.

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I think this is pretty obvious to OP.

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highest flush possible for him is 8s7s

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Yes Im saying the highest flush in his range is 8hi... obv he can have lower flushes as well. However Im not sure that he bets the flop w/ them or that he isolates w/ them. But I am not going to say they are extremely unlikely

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wtf he can obv show up with an A hi flush. That's the issue.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

redgrape he obv means flushes he can beat
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: KJs river flush vs Leatherass

sorry... the highest flush that we beat. My mistake
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