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04-11-2007, 09:10 AM
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Re: AC and power
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Its these people in the third world that most desperately need America to become AC not some libertarian who has to pay 50% tax on his extravagant lifestyle. [/ QUOTE ] I thought the top marginal bracket was 35% in this country? [/ QUOTE ] When you add it sales tax, propterty tax, ect taxes and fees ad nauseam the 'tax' % continues to rise. Of course government doesn't like to collect all the 'tax' under one line item, they spread out taxes and use hidden taxes (INFLATION) to make people beleive they pay less than they actually do. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] And of course the only possible solution to this problem is anarchy. [/ QUOTE ] Who the hell said that? 
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#72
04-11-2007, 09:31 AM
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Re: AC and power
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[ QUOTE ] Its these people in the third world that most desperately need America to become AC not some libertarian who has to pay 50% tax on his extravagant lifestyle. [/ QUOTE ] I thought the top marginal bracket was 35% in this country? [/ QUOTE ] Is federal income tax the only tax you pay? If so, please let me in on your secret. [ QUOTE ] I do not hope for or envision a stateless America. [/ QUOTE ] In other words, you have your hammer.
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#73
04-11-2007, 09:31 AM
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Re: AC and power
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Its these people in the third world that most desperately need America to become AC not some libertarian who has to pay 50% tax on his extravagant lifestyle. [/ QUOTE ] I thought the top marginal bracket was 35% in this country? [/ QUOTE ] When you add it sales tax, propterty tax, ect taxes and fees ad nauseam the 'tax' % continues to rise. Of course government doesn't like to collect all the 'tax' under one line item, they spread out taxes and use hidden taxes (INFLATION) to make people beleive they pay less than they actually do. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] And of course the only possible solution to this problem is anarchy. [/ QUOTE ] I'm all ears.
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#74
04-11-2007, 09:48 AM
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[ QUOTE ] Umm, it's voluntary, you can stop doing service with some protection agency if you don't like it. [/ QUOTE ] But you will still need protection, so its not really voluntary is it. In fact it's not unlike a tax. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, it really is voluntary. And even if you personally feel like you just have to buy protection, you still have a voluntary choice between different providers.
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#75
04-11-2007, 10:21 AM
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And of course the only possible solution to this problem is anarchy. [/ QUOTE ] AFAIK AC is the only system where everyone has the bear the costs of their economic decisions. This is all we're saying: make people accountable. The only way I know to make people accountable is take away their ability to tax unknowledgable tax payers. This would pretty much end all government corruption, freeing up resources for more productive endeavors.
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#76
04-11-2007, 10:21 AM
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Re: AC and power
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Umm, it's voluntary, you can stop doing service with some protection agency if you don't like it. [/ QUOTE ] But you will still need protection, so its not really voluntary is it. In fact it's not unlike a tax. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, it really is voluntary. And even if you personally feel like you just have to buy protection, you still have a voluntary choice between different providers. [/ QUOTE ] But using a protection service itself is not voluntary, unless the person is a complete idiot or has lots of guns.
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#77
04-11-2007, 10:37 AM
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[ QUOTE ] And of course the only possible solution to this problem is anarchy. [/ QUOTE ] AFAIK AC is the only system where everyone has the bear the costs of their economic decisions. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, because that could NEVER EVER happen under terrible, evil government.
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#78
04-11-2007, 10:37 AM
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Re: AC and power
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Its these people in the third world that most desperately need America to become AC not some libertarian who has to pay 50% tax on his extravagant lifestyle. [/ QUOTE ] I thought the top marginal bracket was 35% in this country? [/ QUOTE ] When you add it sales tax, propterty tax, ect taxes and fees ad nauseam the 'tax' % continues to rise. Of course government doesn't like to collect all the 'tax' under one line item, they spread out taxes and use hidden taxes (INFLATION) to make people beleive they pay less than they actually do. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] And of course the only possible solution to this problem is anarchy. [/ QUOTE ] Who the hell said that? [/ QUOTE ] Don't act like I'm misconstruing your position.
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#79
04-11-2007, 10:39 AM
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Don't act like I'm misconstruing your position. [/ QUOTE ] Why not? After all, you are.
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#80
04-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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Re: AC and power
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And of course the only possible solution to this problem is anarchy. [/ QUOTE ] AFAIK AC is the only system where everyone has the bear the costs of their economic decisions. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, because that could NEVER EVER happen under terrible, evil government. [/ QUOTE ] How much is Bush paying out of his own pocket for the war in Iraq? Or the members of congress who voted for it? Who's paying for the bridges to nowhere?
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